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Offline DanielBoone

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Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« on: January 03, 2015, 04:53:33 AM »
Sold out in less than 24 hours...  Anyone jump in?

https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/vz-58-military-762cp?l=1

Offline Eugene Onegin

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 06:24:04 AM »
It's nice that it's set up for a side rail .
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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 09:05:58 AM »
Hmmm...

$850 more than a VZ2008.  I don't think so.  I could have gotten three VZ2008's and still have money left over for a nice steak dinner.

Has anyone shot one of these and a VZ2008 in the same exact conditions, to compare accuracy?  Having the receiver drilled for the optic mount is very nice.  And the finish is obviously nicer on these.  But no threaded barrel to switch out muzzle devices is a real bummer.  That offsets the drilling for the optic mount in my mind.  I'd rather have the VZ58 just due to the nicer finish, and probably a longer service life for the barrel.  But no going to be paying $850 more for it. 

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 09:20:55 AM »
Free bayonet and scabbard while supplies last.
What a deal

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 09:25:47 AM »
Very nice. Missed it. Not too many of these left with the original barrels. Does anyone know what the total number available was?
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 09:32:28 AM by CitizenPete »
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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 09:45:52 AM »
Free bayonet and scabbard while supplies last.
What a deal

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 10:58:57 AM »
I would rather pay the 1250 and know for sure it will go bang every time.

No gremlins for me, if I owned one of the 399 copies I would forever be waiting for problems to POp up.
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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2015, 01:51:31 PM »
I am happy to pay Czechpoint's prices (and have three times).  I'd bet my life a VZ58 will work when I need it. They seem to sell out every batch.  You don't want to pay Czechpoint price and I respect your opinion on that! RESPECTFULLY - That's not why I started this thread though;). Fair enough?  That debate is rather stale...

So anyway....I am a huge of the new builds.  I wonder if they will have a threaded barrel version when the surplus barrels run out?

VZ58 and VZ2008,
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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2015, 03:01:55 PM »
Back on topic. 
I love the build
This has all the things I want change about my low serial number D-technic,
Tapped for scope rail, and bayonet 
My D-technic only has the little extension and I wish it had the brake
I have owned 2 CSA rifles and would love to get a build like this with the original barrels

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2015, 03:10:54 PM »
Oh I forgot to mention the steel trigger!!!!
I don't love the polymer trigger on the D-technic, I trust it to never fail, but would prefer to have a steel one like this new rifle build.

I am pretty sold on this rifle, I will have to reserve some cash to snag one in March

Offline cz671

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 03:29:20 PM »
I am happy to pay Czechpoint's prices (and have three times).  I'd bet my life a VZ58 will work when I need it. They seem to sell out every batch.  You don't want to pay Czechpoint price and I respect your opinion on that! RESPECTFULLY - That's not why I started this thread though;). Fair enough?  That debate is rather stale...

So anyway....I am a huge of the new builds.  I wonder if they will have a threaded barrel version when the surplus barrels run out?

VZ58 and VZ2008,
Friends 4ever:)

Unfortunately their will always be responses like that from some vz2008 fan boys, unfortunately it is what it is.  But hey theirs people outhere who research between the czechpoint vz and the century vz2008, and do appreciate a properly quality built as close as we can get to an original vz58 built in the USA 8)  got an email 1-2-15 of these for sale and less than 24hrs all sold out...bleep that's pretty impressive considering those prices.  If I was not so tied up on other firearms right now...would have snatched one up already

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 04:48:25 PM »
I am happy to pay Czechpoint's prices (and have three times).  I'd bet my life a VZ58 will work when I need it. They seem to sell out every batch.  You don't want to pay Czechpoint price and I respect your opinion on that! RESPECTFULLY - That's not why I started this thread though;). Fair enough?  That debate is rather stale...

So anyway....I am a huge of the new builds.  I wonder if they will have a threaded barrel version when the surplus barrels run out?

VZ58 and VZ2008,
Friends 4ever:)

They already do have a threaded version.  German barrels I believe; and almost certainly better steel than the Czechs are using in manufacture these days...   There was a big thread on that awhile back.  Personally, I wouldn't buy the original just b/c I fear the puddle welds will anneal the barrel, exacerbating muzzle wear...  What's another 1/2 inch!?

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=65707

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2015, 05:02:35 PM »
I would rather pay the 1250 and know for sure it will go bang every time.

No gremlins for me, if I owned one of the 399 copies I would forever be waiting for problems to POp up.
Buy once,  cry once

Thoroughly inspect upon receipt, add a tab, and there's no reason why the VZ2008 won't go bang.  Personally, I think folks are far ahead to start with the VZ2008s (for one, they're regularly available and roughly the same price as parts kits plus an FFL fee), and then move into the Czechpoints once they decide they're fully committed to the platform... 

I don't like the forward to fire safety, polymer fcg components, and the fact that side rails prevent you from installing an ambi-safety.   I also don't like that Czechpoint at their prices don't allow you to select the trigger guard and front sight block types (I'm only interested in protected and open eared, preferably third gen w/ lightening cuts).  Otherwise, it's increasingly a wash now that the barrels are no longer surplus -- that was my big gripe.  They're still using chrome -- why when nitriding is so much cheaper and more effective and has little to negative affect on accuracy, unlike chrome!?  And the fact that they continue to insist upon mag parts for 922r is ridiculous, especially when only supplying two mags.  So you still need a CNC Warrior Piston and CNC/Bonesteel FCG if you want to lose that requirement...

These Classic/Military rifles also appear to be now largely built by Czechpoint...  So understand they're brand new to the VZ58 building game too.  https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/sa-vz58-rifles
And with the classics, I'd really they'd standardize the mag releases, front sight blocks, and furniture at a minimum all to the same generation rather than the usual mishmash of parts... 

I've use the GM/Ford vs Lexus/Mercedes argument before, and that's pretty much where I remain on the debate.  There are tradeoffs for both...

Offline DanielBoone

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2015, 05:26:36 PM »
They already do have a threaded version.  German barrels I believe; and almost certainly better steel than the Czechs are using in manufacture these days...   There was a big thread on that awhile back.  Personally, I wouldn't buy the original just b/c I fear the puddle welds will anneal the barrel, exacerbating muzzle wear...  What's another 1/2 inch!?
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 I own two of the CP threaded versions you linked to...  - I meant adding a threaded barrel to the Czechpoint build they just put out (when the orig surplus barrels sell out).  Cheers!

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Re: Czechpoint VZ58 Builds?!?!
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2015, 05:47:32 PM »
It looks like they're trying to get rid of parts kits... 

Barrels can no longer be imported, so the answer is probably, but if the original furniture runs out at the same time as the barrels, the answer will be no.

Don't know if you recall, but the reason Czechpoint/CSA switched over entirely to black polymer was b/c the supply of first rate/unissued surplus furniture kits dried up...