Interest in possible Geissele trigger pack

[GA Jack]

Its popular among those who planned to SBR it from the start.

But a majority of gun owners have nothing to do with NFA stuff and this thing has basically zero point as a pistol.

[Manticore_Arms]

Id rather see someone make a new grip... steeper angle... most suitable for a CQB weapon...

Just a matter of enough "critical mass"  of owners to justify the cost of a mold for a new grip.

COnvince your buddies to buy Scorpion EVO's and it will make a grip happen sooner!   

[Hammerdown3512]

Its popular among those who planned to SBR it from the start.

But a majority of gun owners have nothing to do with NFA stuff and this thing has basically zero point as a pistol.

nailed it right there.  most people dont want to mess with hassle of ATF paperwork and $200 stamps.   I would not have considered purchasing the scorpion for a second, irregardless of how nice it is, without the ability to SBR it.

when I have shown my EVO to people, they think its cool, but I get the "eh, but what are you going to do with it?" response as a pistol.  as an sbr, they say "bleep thats sweet!" but still balk at the ATF / stamp / $200 / several months wait thing.

the only people who see a value to the scorpion are the NFA crazies (like me) or someone who will be content with a sig brace or a cheek weld device.

[GA Jack]

I'm taking an educated guess, but I am assuming that the United States is the only market in the world where this is sold as a pistol.  I would assume countries that want a "pistol" sub-machine gun are probably buying the MP5k.

Dirty J said it best.  While I would buy an after market trigger, the stock one is fine.  Its a combat trigger.  It is meant to obtain center mass or man sized target hits, not 1 MOA precision shooting.

[Dirty J]

I'm taking an educated guess, but I am assuming that the United States is the only market in the world where this is sold as a pistol.  I would assume countries that want a "pistol" sub-machine gun are probably buying the MP5k.

Dirty J said it best.  While I would buy an after market trigger, the stock one is fine.  Its a combat trigger.  It is meant to obtain center mass or man sized target hits, not 1 MOA precision shooting.

C'mon now... can't have thinking like that. Why would a manufacturer NOT consider the USA to be the only/most important user of their product! 

[RKARMS]

You want to have them sell out and go up in price. just tell your buds no more coming in the country.  but hey I am glad they are importing them in. and SBR is great. you then have a semi folder sub gun. and who cares what others may think..we are all independent and free buyers here.if Joe Blow buys a Glock I buy a Scorpion.if he brings a knife you bring a gun.

its that Rebel thing....do what you like and want... not what the crowd wants.. I could give a rats fat arse if at the next Sar show I have one on display and some dislike it.

that's the fun of FREEDOM...

[hking]

I don't think the Scorpion will be as popular as you think.

I watched one sit on the B/S/T pages of a local GA forum at $700 with 4 mags (2- 30's), the CZC muzzle brake and safet delete.

He took it down for lack of interest after sitting for 2 weeks.

My LGS in smallish town South Dakota has sold 12 of them since release, whenever he gets one init doesn't last more than a day before getting scooped up. Maybe people in GA just dont want them?

[Dirty J]

I don't think the Scorpion will be as popular as you think.

I watched one sit on the B/S/T pages of a local GA forum at $700 with 4 mags (2- 30's), the CZC muzzle brake and safet delete.

He took it down for lack of interest after sitting for 2 weeks.

My LGS in smallish town South Dakota has sold 12 of them since release, whenever he gets one init doesn't last more than a day before getting scooped up. Maybe people in GA just dont want them?

Maybe... I'm no market expert.

But a dozen e-com dealers have them in stock and for up to $100 below msrp. The momentum is slowing. 4 weeks ago... None of these guys had them in stock and all were priced at $850 or higher

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703913506

[RKARMS]

Wow the bubble burst in less then four week's..goin to get another.....for some reason 2016 might be the end of them for import.{If that happens.} they won't be 800 bucks anymore. hopefully they will continue, its a nice handy great looking firearm. I actually like it more then the UMP-45 and MP-5 and the Uzi series,

[Hammerdown3512]

I don't think the Scorpion will be as popular as you think.

I watched one sit on the B/S/T pages of a local GA forum at $700 with 4 mags (2- 30's), the CZC muzzle brake and safet delete.

He took it down for lack of interest after sitting for 2 weeks.

My LGS in smallish town South Dakota has sold 12 of them since release, whenever he gets one init doesn't last more than a day before getting scooped up. Maybe people in GA just dont want them?

Maybe... I'm no market expert.

But a dozen e-com dealers have them in stock and for up to $100 below msrp. The momentum is slowing. 4 weeks ago... None of these guys had them in stock and all were priced at $850 or higher

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703913506

or CZ finally made good on the imported numbers they promised.

[Manticore_Arms]

I have been looking at the parts that count for 922r, and I am starting to think Manticore may investigate doing a trigger pack- that would get 4 parts, and a muzzle device plus a stock would make 6 and reach the magic number.

Going to see if we might be able to lighten up the pull a bit and get 4 U.S. made parts to boot!  It is new territory for us, but seems like it might be a worthwhile goal if no one else wants to tackle it.

Sven
Manticore Arms

[Dirty J]

I have been looking at the parts that count for 922r, and I am starting to think Manticore may investigate doing a trigger pack- that would get 4 parts, and a muzzle device plus a stock would make 6 and reach the magic number.

Going to see if we might be able to lighten up the pull a bit and get 4 U.S. made parts to boot!  It is new territory for us, but seems like it might be a worthwhile goal if no one else wants to tackle it.

Sven
Manticore Arms

Sounds good to me.


If you can strike while the iron is hot and beat CZ to the punch... and provide an easier way to get the parts (i.e. a pre-order program), it could be quite successful.

[Greankrayon]

lol hearing people talk about trigger packs for this gun crack me up.

[Dirty J]

lol hearing people talk about trigger packs for this gun crack me up.

My interest is not to improve the trigger... but simply to have 922 compliance.

[Greankrayon]

That makes sense. Cool cool