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Offline mordakyblu

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Safety v. De-cocker
« on: July 28, 2015, 09:32:31 PM »
I'm thinking about adding a RAMI to my CZ collection. I have a CZ 75 BD Police and a PCR. I'm not a fan of the thumb safety. But the being DA pistol, I'm not sure that the difference is that great, if you are willing to lower the hammer on a loaded camber. I understand that there is a half cock position too.

So,am I  correct that you would have to lower the hammer manually down to half cock or the down position?

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 09:37:34 PM »
Correct. If you don't want to carry cocked and locked, you'll have to manually lower the hammer.
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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 09:40:15 PM »
I'm thinking about adding a RAMI to my CZ collection. I have a CZ 75 BD Police and a PCR. I'm not a fan of the thumb safety. But the being DA pistol, I'm not sure that the difference is that great, if you are willing to lower the hammer on a loaded camber. I understand that there is a half cock position too.

So,am I  correct that you would have to lower the hammer manually down to half cock or the down position?

Thanks

Yes, you are correct, if you get a RAMI with a safety.
If you get the RAMI BD (decocker), it will be the same as your 75BD and PCR.
If I already had those two, I would be looking for a RAMI BD as it would function the same and have less chance at confusion.


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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 10:10:52 PM »
Lots of people manually lower the hammer on their 1911's. I advise being real careful

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 05:07:05 PM »
...... So,am I  correct that you would have to lower the hammer manually down to half cock or the down position?

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Mord .... You are indeed correct in your assumption.  Personally I've always carried mine cocked and locked (as I do my 1911 micro-compact), and although many feel comfortable lowering the hammer on a live round, I've never been one of them as it only takes one "slip of the thumb" to ruin your day.  YMMV.  Good luck with your decision. 
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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2015, 06:30:34 PM »
Lots of people manually lower the hammer on their 1911's. I advise being real careful

Why would you ever want to lower a 1911 hammer manually on a live round?  :o  Even if you feel comfortable with the potential risk in doing so, it's impractical to carry a 1911 condition 2.

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2015, 12:46:14 AM »
I carry my 1911 loaded hammer down and my CZ Rami. I place my thumb in between the hammer and firing pin I then either lower the hammer manually or press the trigger so the hammer goes down slowly. I find it safer. Practice this, its easy if you carry uncocked and loaded.

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 11:40:04 AM »
I carry my 1911 style pistols cocked and locked (the way they were designed to be carried). Why lower the hammer on an SA pistol for carry? In a stressful situation one would have to cock the gun before firing, which is another unnecessary step. With the RAMI BD I decock so the hammer is at half-cock, and first shot double action, subsequent shots SA. Lowering the hammer on a live round can be done, but personally I never feel comfortable doing that. What can go wrong will go wrong and potentially ruin your day.

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 12:22:00 AM »
I have a 92G deckocker, and the PCR. I prefer the decocker mode.  I carried a 1911 about 1 year, until I pulled it out of the holster one night and found I had somehow gotten against something that day and bumped the safety off. The thought of how long was I carrying it that day  fully cocked with the safety off was enough to get me to park it in the dresser drawer. I went back t the Beretta until I got the PCR.  I bought my wife the Rami 2075D for that very reason. I felt that her carry in decock mode was safer than cocked and locked. Only an intentional trigger pull can make it go bang. And in a high stress situation, its point and pull. I know a lot of LEO' who also carry CZ 75 decocker models. The rami "D" version is a very nice little shooter. And the trigger pull from 1/2 cock is pretty nice also.

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 08:25:32 AM »
So am I correct that the prober way to carry the safety version of the Rami is on the half cocked mode like the decocker version? I feel comfortable lowering the hammer to the half cocked position but way less comfortable lower the hammer all the way down.
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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2015, 09:33:25 AM »
So am I correct that the prober way to carry the safety version of the Rami is on the half cocked mode like the decocker version? I feel comfortable lowering the hammer to the half cocked position but way less comfortable lower the hammer all the way down.

Not really "correct", but one option, yes.
Whether your carry it a half-cocked (like the decocker) or cocked and locked (hammer back, safety on) is your preference.
Both work, just depends on how you want to carry.

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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 10:52:02 AM »
I prefer double action first shot. Most of my shooting the last few years has been with Sigs and CZs using double action. I just don't care for lower the hammer all the way down on the CZs.
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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2015, 03:32:46 PM »
If you ever plan to run the gun is a class that requires hot reholstering, double action first shot fans are going to need a decocker....

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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2015, 04:29:32 PM »
When you are de-cocking a pistol with a firing pin block you can remove your finger from the trigger once the hammer has begun to move.  This is a little extra insurance against an accidental discharge.  Test it at the range the next time.  Once the hammer starts to move take your finger off of the trigger and let go of the hammer.  If your firing pin block is working the gun will not fire. 
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Re: Safety v. De-cocker
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2015, 12:39:31 AM »
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If you ever plan to run the gun is a class that requires hot reholstering, double action first shot fans are going to need a decocker....

Jeff,  in what competition is reholstering with either a handgun with a safety or a decocker required?
Are double action revolvers are illegal also?