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Offline RSR

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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2016, 09:48:32 PM »
Here's a couple good headstamp guides:
http://cartridgecollectors.org/?page=headstampcodes
http://www.ak-47.net/ammo/headstamps.html



First from left: 3 appears to be Uly (Russian, Ulyanovsk Machinery Plant State Production Association), who is owned by tulammo, but wasn't owned by tul in 1994, when produced.
Second from left (headstamp upside-down in pic): 71 appears to be made in sweden (FFV Zakrisdalsverken), and produced in 1991
Third from left: 311 appears to be chinese (Unknown Factory, PRC), and made in 1992
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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2016, 02:38:39 AM »
After a getting with RSR he brought up replacing the striker.  I would not have thought it would have taken a hit but sure enough after looking closer it took a heck of a hit. Maybe I can file out the burrs and have a spare.  http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i337/Ricnzak/IMG_0251.jpg]
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Ah hah I also guessed that the striker might be damaged.  (blind squirrel Pete finds nut again) Another symptom of a popper primer -- thanks for posting those pics.  Popped primers happen. Hopefully for you it is just one out of 20000 rounds, and now you have 19999 to go before your next one.   

If I were you, I would throw out that striker, rather than file the burrs off -- at this point it will always be questionable. Just saying.
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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2016, 09:28:36 PM »
Another considerations for zombie apocalypse in addition to the SST:

Another deer/premium self-defense load worth considering -- federal is now offering a 7.62x39 version of their fusion line (bonded soft points):

https://youtu.be/xEo6avZd9ys

I've transitioned to this in 5.56 for home-defense use. 

Both calibers seem to run about $1 per round retail, but I've picked up the 5.56 Fusion MSR for in the 50 cents range and have seen it on sale below 70 cents per round quite often...  If you keep an eye on it, I would imagine you can snag some of the 7.62x39 for less than the $1 per round it typically goes for.

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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2016, 09:59:37 AM »
Wow! Impressive specs and emperical results.  Would like to see a test with a pork shoulder or ham butt into bone.


For more precision shot hunting or shtf urban only use this type of projectile would be devistating against any gel blocks or water jugs trying to force a point on you. Certainly would be nice to a have a couple mags marked with color coded tape full of these for just such an instance.


In general, living in a wooded rural area and after having been influenced by more than a several write ups, perhaps M67 is the best general purpose choice for introducing both water jugs and cemtex to the FSM. Again, not to say that SST or the fusion doesn't bring more meaning coming from a 16" barrel given the circumstances.  The M67 is a good penetrator of wood, and basic mortar, would be less affected by brush, grasses, and small trees, yet being back heavy still has a tendency to tumble through gel and water jugs.


Now if you were hunting cemtex in stealth mode, with a suppressor improving the sound charateristics of the 16" barrel, perhaps a mag full of these EBR 220gr "Ghost" rounds below would be useful as well. That is if you can get them to cycle your gun (TTBOMK works in an suppressed AKMS, not through the Sa. Vz. 58. except perhaps JohnEd's Franken enhanced gas block gun.)




http://ebrammo.com/762-x-39mm


With what looks to be a solid copper 220gr bullet, I would like to see a gel test or ham test of this overly priced monster.









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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2016, 01:29:11 PM »
Not quite a pork shoulder but a windshield test.  Glass is a very hard material and round deformation from hitting glass and/or bone should be similar...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upyDQyr-3Lk

And if you're looking for more penetration, there's always the russian soft point stuff with thicker steel jackets and usually harder lead too...  ~154 and 125 gr options available...  Heavier obviously penetrating deeper, especially through intermediate barriers such as bone.
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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 04:48:54 PM »
Thought I posted this yesterday, but apparently missed it.  A few years old now (from 2005), but cross sections:


Source: http://www.lesjones.com/2005/06/09/airspace-in-762x39mm-bullets/

The 3rd from right, Uly FMJ, should be the "8M2" bullet, first from left in cutaway.

SG Ammo has Barnaul Wolf Milspec ammo in stock.

This pic, I thought the bullet looked like the Uly 8M1:


http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-or-wpa/1000-round-case-762x39-123-grain-fmj-mil-spec-ammo-lacquer-and-sealant-wolf-perf

I asked but was told it's the standard wolf FMJ bullet.

For reference, here's the non-cutaway 8M1 bullet.

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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2016, 02:06:05 PM »
Phuc Long from FU recently did a video subjectively comparing 7.62x39 to 5.45x39 utilizing different AKM variants.  The ballistics of the 16" AKM and the 16" Sa. Vz.58 are virtually identical. Not that there is a Sampol variant that shoots 5.45, however one could arguably contrast the ballistics closer with the 5.45 with the SA. Vz.58 cambered in 5.56.


As you can see from the video, this is not exactly science.  ;)


http://youtu.be/QMBMdeN9dyg


Since Phuc was shunned by Rob Ski, he has brought on Bob Sled for part two.
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Re: Click no Bang!
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2016, 04:57:19 PM »
Watched most of his youtube vids last week actually.  Ridiculous but funny. 

For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7cyQlsUQ6E

Note: these videos are comedy/satire.

Here's the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd326VMQLTQP3KicVuRr8_w/videos

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