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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2016, 06:33:28 PM »
Nice find!  How do you like the feel of that grip style?

I really like the rust blue, but since you did that already, maybe do a brown finish on the gun like the old muzzle loaders. What did they use on the finish: bacon grease or some wild thing?


I remember my father-in-law telling me he browned the barrels of muzzle loaders by whittling out a good tight hickory plug for both ends of the barrel and tapping them in good and tight.  Then he'd bury the barrel in cow bleep.  I do not remember how long he said to leave it in the cow bleep.  Once the time limit was up, he'd dig it out, wipe it off, remove the hickory wood plugs and wipe the barrel down with oil before assembling the rest of the muzzle loader.

I just figured I'd never try browning a barrel.  Not a fan of muzzle loaders or the traditional look.

I hadn't thought about that for years, but you brought it up.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2016, 07:03:25 PM »
Thankfully they have come a long way in that finish! You apply the acid to the metal and it turns red/brown in 2 to 4 hours depending on the humidity. Card it off and keep applying it and carding until you reach a deep, dark, even color. If you boil it after it reaches a red/brown finish it turns blue. Either way it provides a great looking rust proof finish that last forever. If for some reason the browned frame turns out to look awful I can always do it in some other finish but since I have never seen a 2 tone blue and brown I think it will at least look different.

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2016, 10:01:34 PM »
What do you soak the pistol in to get the coating off, I have found a CZ 75 in a local shop but the coating has turned me off. 

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2016, 10:19:25 PM »
Klean Strip Aircraft Paint & Epoxy Stripper is the best, then soaking in Acetone overnight, more stripper the next day. It is some tough stuff to get off. Final is hitting the frame and slide with a stainless brush on a grinder to get the corners and stubborn Polycoat spots. I have tried all kinds of paint stripper but Klean Strip brand will eventually take it off, it laughs at the other brands.


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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2016, 04:58:52 AM »
Don't know about the brand (Kleen Strip) for sure but I remember using some spray on air craft paint stripper on some aluminum rims a few years ago.

I sprayed it on, let it sit, the paint raised up and bubbled real nice.  I grabbed the water hose/nozzle to spray off the loose stuff and it was coming off real nice.  Then I thought a bug bit me on the leg so I smacked at my leg.  Then another bug bite and another bite and then my legs were stinging all over and it hit me that the water was splashing that stripper off the rims and it was eating my legs up, in spite of the water. 

I turned the water from the rim to my legs and started rubbing the stripper off with one hand while spraying with the other till I got all the stinging/burning stopped.  Then I put on long pants and finished cleaning up the rim with a scraper before letting it dry for the second coat of spray stripper.

Wear monogoggles (if it burned my leg it would eat up your eyes), good rubber gloves (you know most strippers just eat up the flimsy little latex gloves you wear for painting/staining or doing oil changes) and what ever other clothes you need to keep it off your arms/legs.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2016, 06:58:59 AM »
Of course it had to be dropped on the muzzle, I think that is a pre-requisite in Israel. I will be repairing that but I would be interested in what you think.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2016, 07:42:48 PM »
The first time I went to qualify I had a 62 year old Correctional Officer on my right and a 63 year old County Deputy on my left. When the RO blew the whistle my sidewalk erupted in white dust and my target caught 8 rounds before I fired a shot. They were both shooting long barreled revolvers in .38 Special. Scared the crap out of me and the RO!

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2016, 10:58:11 PM »
If I would have had any idea how good "brown" would look I would have done the whole gun in brown. I have already rust blued the slide and it is hanging up waiting on it's 3rd boil and card. Rust bluing is a slow go right now. The frame turned out looking very nice in brown. Whodathunkit?




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PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2016, 11:13:25 PM »
Ya know, that looks pretty nice. Kind of almost a chocolate brown.
    I never would of thought brown would look good, but I'm impressed. Can't wait to see it with the blues slide.

    In your "Slow rust blueing" thread you did a great job of explaining the process. What do you do different in getting the Brown?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 11:24:37 PM by cntrydawwwg »
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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 12:00:20 AM »
The only difference you don't boil it to turn it blue.

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2016, 12:23:48 AM »
Ok. So it's the carding that stops the rusting process?
   Sorry, maybe it was mentioned before[emoji17]
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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2016, 01:19:14 AM »
Very nice pics!

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2016, 01:25:36 AM »
I have been at this most of the day but I was determined to finish this weekend so here it is Brown & Blue. I like it! Good night, assembly tomorrow.




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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2016, 01:54:43 AM »
Ok. So it's the carding that stops the rusting process?
   Sorry, maybe it was mentioned before[emoji17]

To stop the browning/bluing you have to either soak it in baking soda and water or oil it with a non rust removing oil like motor oil or boiled linseed oil after the last carding. I have used carnauba wax which works ok too.

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Re: PICKED UP A STRANGE ONE THIS TIME
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2016, 02:27:20 AM »
Thanks for the info SP01SHADOW.
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