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Offline RedState

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CZ vs Canik
« on: February 11, 2016, 11:32:32 AM »
I posted this on the CZ Clone Club subforum, a subforum that I frequent. I noticed that there are a lot of different posters on this subforum so i thought I would pose the same question here for a more diverse range of opinions.

Now that the Caniks have been out for a while, I have a question for all of us Canik and CZ owners.

Are these Canik pistols of comparable quality to the CZ that they will hold up to just as many rounds and as much abuse as will a CZ? Also, opinions on fit and finnish as well as the quality of parts are welcome. Not interested in the resale value.

I have a C-100, L-120 and a CZ85b. I don't have a lot of rounds through any of them. The CZ has about 1800, the C-100 has over 500 and the L-120 only has about 150. From my layperson's observations, I don't see anything that would make the Caniks inferior to the CZs.

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2016, 04:02:40 PM »
Don't have a Canik to compare, although I've shot them, and IMI, Tan/EAA. While I like CZ best, I've never been particularly disappointed with a clone.

Seems to me its the beauty of the design, really. Unlike american firearms development, the CZ was developed behind the iron curtain and the design shared across multiple countries as a result - no capitalist money grubbing pig could unfairly profit off the people by holding sole ownership of the design (said in my best Bernie Sanders impersonation). It really is a peoples gun. So the open design lends itself to high quality across many makers.

And advances in machining processes make it possible for manufacturers to put out very very high quality for far less cost.
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Offline Psyop96

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2016, 05:13:20 PM »
CZ - preferred by capitalist pigs [emoji847]. Haven't shot the clones but will have to make an effort to do so.

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 04:49:11 PM »
Bumping this thread. Very surprised at the lack of response. I would have thought that many of us CZ owners would also have a Canik.

Offline Independent George

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 05:25:50 PM »
Haven't tried the Canik, but the EAA/Tanfolio clones seem pretty durable; I shot a rental model that the counter guy said was 15 years old. I can't imagine the Canik's being any different.
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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 09:34:41 PM »
The fit and finish on my TriStar T-120 is as good or better than the CZ 75B I had. My TriStar P-120 wasn't quite as nice as the CZ. I thought I would be more impressed with CZ 75B than I was and I found that I liked some of the characteristics of my TriStars more than I liked the CZ. I wasn't anymore accurate with the CZ 75B than I was with my clones.
I think the CZs might last longer than the clones and I doubt that there will ever be an issue of getting parts for the CZs. Finding parts for a 10 year old clone may be a different story.
My CZ P-09 is a completely different pistol and I can't think of a clone that I can compare it too. The omega trigger system puts it in a different league than any other poly framed pistol I can think of.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 07:26:32 AM by wdbutcher »

Offline Rmach

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 10:57:58 PM »
I have a Tristar C-100, P-100, L-120 and a matte stainless CZ75b. They are all fine handguns, and I expect them to perform well for many many years. The CZ shoots the most accurately for me, but not by much. I'm very satisfied with both products.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 11:03:27 PM by Rmach »

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 11:45:48 AM »
Thanks. I suspected there were more owners of both CZ and Canik on this site.

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 09:18:32 PM »
My CZ P-09 is a completely different pistol and I can't think of a clone that I can compare it too. The omega trigger system puts it in a different league than any other poly framed pistol I can think of.
I'd really like to try out a Canik TP9. I've heard great things about them and had a chance to fondle one at my LGS. It had a great trigger and I even liked the decocker. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if money grew on trees :)

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2016, 09:39:46 PM »
Took my CZ 85b and my Tristar Canik L-120 (alloy frame full size). Gotta say that the finish on the CZ looks better.

Fired the CZ first. Did have a failure to feed around the middle of the first magazine. Was using the Mecgar magazine that came with the Canik, so I thought I would try another magazine that came with the CZ.

Before I used the CZ again, I used the Canik. Wow, the difference in recoil caught me by surpirse on the first shot, probably due to the alloy frame. Ran flawlessly, using the CZ magazine.

Another 2 different magazines with the CZ and 1 more failure to feed on each magazine. These were my reloads I was using. I was thinking, what the heck. In the meantime, I fired 2 more magazines with the Canik, all perfect.

After going through 50 rounds on each pistol with reloads. I decided to focus on the CZ ftf. I happened to have a box of factory Fiocchi 9mm. I thought that maybe it needed some lube so I lubed it. Been a year since I cleaned and lubed it. Ran 40 rounds of the Fiocchi without a hiccup. I put 10 rounds of the Fiocchi through the Canik and it too ran without a hiccup.

Still wondering if the FTF's were partially caused by a weakened recoil spring. The recoil spring is the original and has almost 2,000 round through it. Any input would be appreciated on the life span of a recoil spring and whether that could have been a contributing factor that was helped with oil.

Accuracy between the CZ and the Canik was about the same. Both are great pistols.

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2016, 09:48:42 PM »
CZs and Caniks both like to run wet. A little bit of oil can help a lot.

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Re: CZ vs Canik
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 09:54:23 PM »
CZs and Caniks both like to run wet. A little bit of oil can help a lot.

Thanks. Probably can't hurt to get a new recoil spring as well to at least have one on hand.