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Offline Tom Kanas

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Which 22?
« on: July 15, 2002, 08:15:09 AM »
Trying to decide which 22 to buy.  Is the S&W 41 that good?  If so, I might be interested in a used one.  I saw 2 High Standard Duramatics in a local gun shop.  Both are Hamden, CT made.  Long barrel for $239, Short barrel for $259.  Both seemed to be in good condition.  Anyone know anything about these?  The shop also had a used S&W 41 with 2 barrels for $699.   I talked to Ruger and Buck Mark owners.  They all like their guns but generally say how hard they are to take down to clean (especially the Rugers).  OR...should I forget all this and just get a Kadet for my 75B?  I'm starting to now lean in this direction.  How much of a fitting problem have any of you had with the Kadet.  I've read that some filing may have to be done.  I assume this is done to the Kadet and not the 75.  I'd hate to mess with the 75 since it performs flawlessly.  Also, how much more wear and tear does it put on the 75?  Who now has the best price for these with 2 mags?  Sorry for all the questions and long post but I always respect the advice I get on this forum.  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks guys.
            Tom

Walt-Sherrill

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2002, 01:19:22 PM »
The S&W 41 is very good.   But only the old ones, and you'll pay a premium for them.   (Look for one made in the 60's, and be prepared to spend big dollars.)
           
            I had a Ruger Target Competition (Slabside) with the long barrel.  Very nice gun.   But my Kadet Kit was so close to it in accuracy, I traded the Slabside for a Witness .45 (Sport Long Slide, also a nice gun.)   Have NOT regretted the change, as the CZ-75 (or 85 Combat, in my case) grip is much more ergonomic than most .22s.  The Rugers can be tuned.  Takedown is a problem only if you're ignorant.  Once someone shows you how to do it, they're as quick and as easy to clean as any gun -- probably easier than a Buckmark which has pieces that go flying if you take off the grips.
           
           
            The SIG Trailsides are apparently very accurate (being a knockoff of the superb Hammerli guns.)
           
            Buckmarks have their adherents, as do the OLD High Standards.  The Duramatics you mentioned aren't anything exceptional.  You'll have to spend a LOT to get a High Standard worth having.   (They don't all live up their the High Standard "high standard.")   And parts can be a problem.
           
            If you have a 1911-style pistol, look into the Marvel conversion kit.  It is truly match-grade quality.  Bullseyes shooters use them in competition.  About $300 - $350, but well worth it.   I don't much care for the Ciener kits.
           
            All that said, unless you're a serious competitor in .22 bullseye shooting, any of the guns I've mentioned will shoot a lot better than you (i.e., your results with any of them won't be that much different.)
           
            I think you'd be well-served with a Kadet Kit -- and unless you get a lemon (which can happen with any gun) you'll find the accuracy as good as most of the guns we've mentioned, and better than some.  Mine is very accurate -- but part of that is because my CZ has a VERY GOOD trigger!
           
           

cz40va

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2002, 05:30:08 AM »
My choice would be the Kadet kit. I have never regretted getting mine. It is loads of fun and very accurate.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2002, 10:55:39 PM »
I've had a CZ 75 B 40 S & W with the Kadet Conversion for about a year.  Got my CCW license with it also.  I've had excellent results beat am very happy with the set up.  Never had an FTE or missfire with the 40.  With the Kadet conversion I installed the tapered firing pin from CZ and modified the extractor as described in this forum.  Since then, using Remington 22LR I have maybe 1 missfire out of 50 or 75.  Sometimes I go through a whole box and have no missfires.  For the money I don't see how you can beat it.

Walt-Sherrill

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2002, 03:35:46 AM »
We should mention, also, that misfires with cheap ammo are common with most .22 auto pistols.  I had numerous ones with my Ruger Mk II Target Competition.
           
            (I've had MORE with the Kadet Kit, but not enough that I feel a compelling need to try to resolve the problem.  This is NOT a gun I use in ways where absolute reliability is absolutely necessary.)
           
            One of hte shooters here says Mini-Mags work flawlessly...
           
            If you're only shooting a box or two each outing, that may be the best way to go.