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Offline twowheels

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 08:13:46 PM »
I'd buy a new slide stop and try it out.  I'd also figure out where the stop is interfering with the slide and relieve the stop.

My P 01 omega runs perfect.  My steel railed compact had some FTF issues.  I diagnosed that my PD 124 HPs were contacting the slide stop during feeding so I took a file to the stop and its run 100% ever since.

 

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 01:51:43 PM »
During live fire the slide will always return to battery. While firing the slide has never actually gotten stuck, it just has a bit of a hiccup. I don't think it is a recoil spring issue.

Again, if I push inward on the slide stop it returns smooth.


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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 02:19:05 PM »
I think my 97BD does the same although not with magazine inserted.  My guess is the mags causing my issue.  Not sure worth a call


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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 02:47:17 PM »
I think my 97BD does the same although not with magazine inserted.  My guess is the mags causing my issue.  Not sure worth a call


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Unfortunately, the issue arises with or with the magazine inserted, which leads me to believe it is the slide stop itself. If I removed the slide stop and rack the slide the issue is resolved.

I would like to order a new slide stop, but I want to figure out if I can just file it down a little or bend it slightly to correct the issue.

I would like to purchase a new one but $10 to ship is insane!

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 10:49:51 PM »
Okay it seems like there might be a spacing or tolerance issue.

For whatever reason, my slide stop is getting hung up where the obvious wear marks are. It will not transition smoothly over that slight bulge. I don't know if it is safe to file or if the slide stop itself may be a millimeter short.. or if it's totally normal.

I made another, more in depth video.. any input would be greatly appreciated

https://youtu.be/_108-7LMlnY

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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 01:08:02 AM »
Okay it seems like there might be a spacing or tolerance issue.

For whatever reason, my slide stop is getting hung up where the obvious wear marks are. It will not transition smoothly over that slight bulge. I don't know if it is safe to file or if the slide stop itself may be a millimeter short.. or if it's totally normal.

I made another, more in depth video.. any input would be greatly appreciated

https://youtu.be/_108-7LMlnY

Just to clarify, have you called CZ? I'd imagine if they saw your video they'd send you a new slide stop or have you send them the gun and they'd fix it right up.
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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 04:59:38 AM »
I have an urban gray P01 (which has the omega system) and I don't have the issue with it you have with yours. 

It's "CZ" stiff to rack the slide, but it doesn't hang/grab anywhere.

Good luck.  If there's something wrong, I'll bet CZ will take care of it.  My front sight "died", I e-mailed CZ USA, they replied the next day with a return authorization number.  I shipped the slide to them and had it back in about a week and a half with a new front sight on it.  It only took that long because FEDEX damaged the shipping label and it sat at one of their locations for about 3 days while they tried to figure out what it was, where it needed to go, etc.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 06:35:31 AM »
It looks like you have two separate issues.  The OEM magazines being clearly different perplexes me.  It doesn't surprise me that two of them don't function properly, although in theory they should be interchangeable.

The slide stop issue could simply be that yours is somehow out of spec, whether it was manufactured that way or became that way over time...who knows?  I would say to try to swap the slide stop from your Compact with your P-01 and check function but I think they may be different parts...not sure though.

I would call CZ customer service and get a direct e-mail to the representative you are dealing with and send them the picture of the mags as well as the video.  I would think these issues would fall under warranty as a "manufacturers defect" and perhaps they would take care of this for you.  It's definitely worth a try in my opinion...good luck!  Hope you get it resolved soon!   

 




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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 07:41:38 AM »
If the slide stop spring is properly adjusted then the slide stop never contacts the slide until the last round is stripped from the mag and the mag follower pushes up on the stop. operating the slide without the stop in place really proves nothing since the barrel doesn't unlock without the stop in place so there is no mechanical resistance.
The gun should be under warranty and if you call CZ-USA they will send you a return label to send the gun back and repair any issues.
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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 09:02:30 AM »
Hmmm all this talk had me look at my 97BD last night.  With a magazine in place I can get it to hang as demonstrated in the video

Without a mag inserted it moves freely.  I did notice on all my CZs I see the slide stop move up and down a bit while racking the slide

Wondering if issue with my 97BD is the slide stop or magazines


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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2017, 09:28:59 AM »
I just contacted CZ with the video embedded in hopes they can diagnose the problem. I really don't want these videos posted on YouTube for much longer, its a bad look and I love this pistol. It may give the wrong impression to prospective buyers.

Fingers crossed.

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2017, 10:17:03 AM »
Update..

so CZ Customer Service has already responded and this is what I got;

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Hello,

The slide getting that little bit of resistance at the end is the should be the slide stop hitting that camming surface on the barrel, or where the barrel is locking up into the slide.  The ware marks you see on the see on the slid and the slide stop is normal, it is metal on metal rubbing.  You could try and polish the slide stop where you think it is binding, that will not void the warranty.  You can always get another slide stop, it?s a cheap enough part.  I would advise against doing anything to the slide, unless you are positively sure you know what you are doing. 

BUT with all that being said.  The gun isn?t meant to be eased into battery, which is why the spring overcomes that last bit of resistance most if not all of the time. 

We could always bring the gun in and inspect it to see if everything is functioning properly if you like. 

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.   

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2017, 10:19:53 AM »
Looks like that hesitation is right at the point the barrel is locked up. One of mine does this too if I ride the slide very slowly. During shooting or normal slide release, all is fine. In my case, it's right at the point where the barrel lugs get pushed up into the top of the slide during lockup. This is on a barrel I fitted myself, so perhaps I should make one more pass with the ceramic file. But, all works nicely, locks up tight and shoots tighter groups than with the factory barrel. Pushing on the slide release may just position the barrel a minute amount where it locks up without hesitation.

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2017, 10:27:16 AM »
Looks like that hesitation is right at the point the barrel is locked up. One of mine does this too if I ride the slide very slowly. During shooting or normal slide release, all is fine. In my case, it's right at the point where the barrel lugs get pushed up into the top of the slide during lockup. This is on a barrel I fitted myself, so perhaps I should make one more pass with the ceramic file. But, all works nicely, locks up tight and shoots tighter groups than with the factory barrel. Pushing on the slide release may just position the barrel a minute amount where it locks up without hesitation.

I guess if its normal operation than I'm just worrying for no reason..

Should I order another slide stop?

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Re: P-01 Omega, slide stop hanging up..
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2017, 11:19:49 AM »
A couple of mine do it if I ride the slide very slowly - my P01 and my Steel rail "SP01 compact." I have 14# recoil springs in both. Does it with and without mags. They function flawlessly when shooting so I don't worry about it.
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