Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008

[Glasspix]

Here it is, as ever, it is a definitive review. In case you are too busy to watch, we were all wrong, its not a reliable rifle after all, start selling...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boLT049AjXs

[Brasky]

He lost all credibility after Hungarian

I couldn't make it through the whole thing. Was the only problem failure to feed with brass cased ammo? I feel like a member here had the same problem. I've had zero failure to feeds in over 800 rounds of steel cased.

It's sad, most of his complaints about why he doesn't like it are reasons I like it

[RSR]

Hungarian, AK variant, "standard AK muzzle device threading," etc... So much wrong info.  He clearly was going through the motions on this one due to audience demand -- he wasn't open to it nor did he attempt to learn or verify what he was saying...
He's a knee deep AK guy, so there's no room in his system/philosophy for use for the VZ58 -- hence, the cold shoulder.

Uncertain about the condition of the gun overall and gen, but the following are my thoughts:
-Seems to be hanging up on the disconnector portion of the cycle
-Could be worn recoil and striker springs (not enough force to push it back into battery)
-Push down plate with bevel would help to make that disconnector disengagement less abrupt
-Ammo could be underpowered, not at all familiar w/ Red Army Standard brass
-Also could be related to the bolt dragging/hanging up on the lower receiver or ejector with those rails being a little too low on the later gen VZ2008s

And anyone using the Century slant on the gun is doing themselves a disservice.  At the end of the vid, you can see the guy fighting the gun pulling sideways, which it wouldn't with any VZ58 specific brake or flash hider that doesn't affect recoil -- at the point in the video where he creepily says "daddy fixes" to the other dude...

[Earl Keese]

As an old friend of mine used to say, "that guy puts ants on me". I really don't see why he gets so many views on YT.

[LittleJenny]

Haven't watched it yet but if he's bashing our beloved Vz, I may just skip it. 😉

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[RSR]

I just skimmed.  His beef is that the brass cased red army standard sometimes jammed.  Sample of one gun and one type of ammo from my quick scan through...  Not statistically significant.

I actually want to like Nutnfancy as I think he legitimately believes in what he's doing and I think has good intentions...  However, anyone with an actual knowledge base quickly sees that all he's doing is bloviating from a rather limited knowledge base and a very specific to him and his own perspective... 

[RSR]

He lost all credibility after Hungarian

I couldn't make it through the whole thing. Was the only problem failure to feed with brass cased ammo? I feel like a member here had the same problem. I've had zero failure to feeds in over 800 rounds of steel cased.

It's sad, most of his complaints about why he doesn't like it are reasons I like it

AMDs are cool and weird, actually AKs, quite common on Century rebuilds right now, and everyone knows they're Hungarian...  Really don't understand how he could confuse.

[LittleJenny]

I watched the bleep video!!!!!  Ok, so he likes some of the features but had issues with brass cased ammo (we all know comblocs love steel).  Since he's not a fan, he's not too familiar with the availability of accessories  (sure, not nearly as prolific as in the AK world). My 2008 has been flawless since day 1. I like the 'uniqueness' of it. Not everybody and their dog has one. ? Oh and don't get me started on Nutn's 'tacticool' AK. LOL

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[RSR]

Listening to it as I'm doing other stuff -- sort of like talk radio; good background noise and you can listen in and out and still catch everything... 

Around 9 min, he's talking about cheek slap and recoil being sharp.  Cheek slap caused by slant brake, and recoil is probably weak recoil and striker springs (also quite possibly a contributing issue to brass cases jamming/not chambering).

He said receiver is milled aluminum!  It's steel.

Compared the VZ58 action to the mini14 in regards to action exposure and debris!?  The op-rod exposure on garand-style action (what causes the issue) vs the VZ58 isn't even close...  Yes, they both have large ejection ports, but that's not relevant to the issue he's raising...

Says you can't use AK grips (not true per several member's mods here), or the Zhukov stock (clearly doesn't know about the RS Regulate adapter).

I made the mistake of reading some of the video comments.  Just as much wrong information there masquerading as correct as in Nutnfancy's video itself...

[MeatAxe]

Good.

I'm glad nobody lent him a CSA Vz58, otherwise I'd have thousands more Long n Winded fanboys to compete with when Czechpoint puts their VZs on sale again...

[gwvt]

I've tried once again to watch one of this guy's videos but his egotistical blathering just turns my head to mush. I've never managed to make it through one and this is one no different. I suppose my takeaway should be to avoid the Hungarian VZs? He says we should take or leave his opinion - guess which I choose? 

[TJNewton]

A half hour of research before shooting and before publishing this video could have improved his shooting experience and saved him a lot of humiliation.  Even though each hour of his videos have only about 10 minutes of actual content, the content was good.  Or so I thought.  I'd watch his videos to learn about things I knew little or nothing about.  He always speaks with confidence and authority.  Judging by the way he bull!@##ted through his VZ2008 review, he and his videos have lost most if not all credibility.  Who knows how much of the knowledge that I'd thought I'd gleaned from him is just careless prattle.

Very sad.

[Glasspix]

A half hour of research before shooting and before publishing this video could have improved his shooting experience and saved him a lot of humiliation.  Even though each hour of his videos have only about 10 minutes of actual content, the content was good.  Or so I thought.  I'd watch his videos to learn about things I knew little or nothing about.  He always speaks with confidence and authority.  Judging by the way he bull!@##ted through his VZ2008 review, he and his videos have lost most if not all credibility.  Who knows how much of the knowledge that I'd thought I'd gleaned from him is just careless prattle.

Very sad.

I kind of feel the same way. I have learned a lot about stuff that I will never have the chance to try, but this review has been a bit of an anitclimax. However, the rifle he was shooting did have numerous FTFs and I do not think it was user induced. Has anyone any thoughts on that or possible suggestions for a remedy?

[RSR]

A half hour of research before shooting and before publishing this video could have improved his shooting experience and saved him a lot of humiliation.  Even though each hour of his videos have only about 10 minutes of actual content, the content was good.  Or so I thought.  I'd watch his videos to learn about things I knew little or nothing about.  He always speaks with confidence and authority.  Judging by the way he bull!@##ted through his VZ2008 review, he and his videos have lost most if not all credibility.  Who knows how much of the knowledge that I'd thought I'd gleaned from him is just careless prattle.

Very sad.

In the past he has said that he doesn't go on the forums or pay any attention to haters so as to not bias or cause him to change any of his reviews...  Yeah, how's that working out?

Objectively, I think his gun reviews are getting worse.  Don't know if he's making enough money now to do his "expedition"/living in a van thing full time now or what.  Get the impression he's decided on his personal ultimate for the weapon side of his system, and isn't interested in re-evaluating anything or allowing anything to change that opinion...

[RSR]

I kind of feel the same way. I have learned a lot about stuff that I will never have the chance to try, but this review has been a bit of an anitclimax. However, the rifle he was shooting did have numerous FTFs and I do not think it was user induced. Has anyone any thoughts on that or possible suggestions for a remedy?

Above:

Hungarian, AK variant, "standard AK muzzle device threading," etc... So much wrong info.  He clearly was going through the motions on this one due to audience demand -- he wasn't open to it nor did he attempt to learn or verify what he was saying...
He's a knee deep AK guy, so there's no room in his system/philosophy for use for the VZ58 -- hence, the cold shoulder.

Uncertain about the condition of the gun overall and gen, but the following are my thoughts:
-Seems to be hanging up on the disconnector portion of the cycle
-Could be worn recoil and striker springs (not enough force to push it back into battery)
-Push down plate with bevel would help to make that disconnector disengagement less abrupt
-Ammo could be underpowered, not at all familiar w/ Red Army Standard brass
-Also could be related to the bolt dragging/hanging up on the lower receiver or ejector with those rails being a little too low on the later gen VZ2008s

And anyone using the Century slant on the gun is doing themselves a disservice.  At the end of the vid, you can see the guy fighting the gun pulling sideways, which it wouldn't with any VZ58 specific brake or flash hider that doesn't affect recoil -- at the point in the video where he creepily says "daddy fixes" to the other dude...