97B safety question

[Sk2088]

Just got my new 97B. Because CZ is new to me, I hope someone can help answering this question for me before I make any phone calls.

I found that I can turn safety on regardless if the hammer is cocked or lowered. And, with hammer lowered and safety on, I can pull the trigger in double action and strike the hammer. Is it the way it should be?

[longgonedaddy]

No, if the safety is on you should not be able to pull the trigger and make the hammer strike the firing pin.  Is this a new from CZ pistol or is this a new to you pistol that you bough used?

[cntrydawwwg]

Typically the safety won't even flip on with hammer down unless it's had some work done to it.
    Also, even if the safety can be flipped on at hammer down, don't do it. It can mess with the internals. It's designed to work at full cock only.
   Call CZ USA and see what they say. As long as the safety fully works when hammer is cocked, I think you are good to go.

[Sk2088]

It's new and customized. How it works is this:
1. Cocked and loaded, safety works as stock, SA pull about 4lb
2. Hammer down, safety off, DA pull about 7lb
3. Hammer down, safety ON, DA pull about 18lb

It seems I am getting a regular 97B (1,2) with another option (3) for a higher level of trigger safety.  Is this a problem or a nice feature?

[longgonedaddy]

Knowing who customized your new pistol will help. 

Your first two scenario's are correct.  Your third scenario is not correct.  Especially, if you are really, really pulling hard on the trigger when the safety is on and the hammer strikes the firing pin.  If that is the case you are going to break your safety and damage your pistol's firing mechanism.  Do not pull the trigger when the hammer is down and the safety is on.

It sounds like you may have an adjustable sear that is not adjusted correctly.  Somewhere, either on this forum or on You Tube are instructions on how an adjustable sear needs to be set for the safety to work correctly.

[longgonedaddy]

Here is some info from CGW web page...

"When installing any high performance hammer in a CZ, the sears angle is changed, which alters the way the manual safety works:

1)  Hammer down manual safety can be applied ?up?

2)  Hammer at half-cock manual safety can be applied ?up?

3)  Hammer at full cock, manual safety can be applied ?up?, but trigger pull w/n drop the hammer

Please note this deviates from the way the OEM parts work.  DO NOT cycle the action in DA with the hammer down and the manual safety in the ?up? position.  The manual safety was never designed to be applied ?up? with the hammer down, whether using OEM parts or CGW parts.  The manual safety is only designed to be used with the hammer at full cock.  If 1, 2, & 3 listed above are unacceptable, then do not purchase this hammer kit."

[Sk2088]

Thank you very much, longgonedaddy. I'll call the shop and check if there is anything I need to worry about or adjust.

[Sk2088]

Confirmed everything works as customized by design. I just didn't know. Now I am a happy owner. 

[cntrydawwwg]

Good to hear. Congrats!

[Sk2088]

Thank you, cntryd.

[whitecap]

If the hammer is down and you pull the trigger and the gun fires with the safety applied, how can you be "happy now"? The gun should never fire with the safety applied no matter how hard you pull the trigger. Would you identify who customized the pistol? If the hammer is back and the safety is applied will the gun fire with a strong trigger pull?

[cntrydawwwg]

Whitecap, he didn't say for sure who did the customization, but doesn't really matter.
   As was pointed out in post #6, the pistol is not designed to use the safety at hammer down or half cock. That's why he can pull thru the safety, and in fact if a person kept doing it they could mess up the internals.
   That's why he's happy, it works as it was designed to work, use the safety at full cock only.

[whitecap]

RE-read # 6. Did not take in the "w/n" used. Thanks CD, all clear now.

[cntrydawwwg]

RE-read # 6. Did not take in the "w/n" used. Thanks CD, all clear now.

    All good. I've done that myself more times than I can count. [emoji6]