P 01 decocker slack

[CZHipster]

I bought a defensive carry package from Cajun Gun Works for my p01. I have put three of these in my Polymer guns with no problems but this one was beyond my capabilities. I brought it to a gunsmith who agreed to install the Kit.
  I want to pick the gun up today and although the trigger felt much better there was clearly a problem with a decocker. When the hammer is all the way down there's no play in the decocker as usual. When the hammer is fully cocked there is a tremendous amount of loose play in The Hammer is only decocked at the very bottom edge of the movement.
   To me it feels like a spring was not replaced in the decocker assembly. I am not familiar enough with the internals to identify what exactly is wrong but the gunsmith claims there were no extra parts and everything was put back together correctly.
  Can anybody help me identify the missing Spring Park and give me some directions to give this gunsmith to try to correct this mistake? Thank you for any help. I miss my pistol

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[cntrydawwwg]

Sounds just like all my decockers. Rami BD, SP01 Tac., Phantom, and P01. They all have to be pushed all the way to decock.
   Not saying something isn't wrong. When you say loose, does it flop around with no pressure? All mine push down very easy, but not floppy. At the very end you have to push a little farther to decock.

[CZHipster]

Yes, it is floppy.  I have been carrying thus gun for 9 years and it is definitely not correctly assembled.  It just have no resistance at the fulcrum.  It's loose alla round and no longer feels active.  I did find a post elsewhere that explained that the springs in the sere decocker assembly were probably not correctly reinserted.

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[cntrydawwwg]

Ahh, ya that's not how it should be. Check in the smithing section, someone should have pics as to how the springs should be.
   Edit.......
BDG has some great pics in his thread.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=68279
   Doesn't show a good shot of the sear though[emoji53]
   I know someone has a good pic of the decocker sear put together. Just can't remember where I saw it. Sorry.

[doc171]

Look at abyss1232 on YouTube. He has a good video on the decocker cage assembly. It's what I went by doing my P0-1 last month when I installed the CGW PRO kit. And, My PCR PRO that I purchased last year from CGW has a totally different feel from the P0-1 when you use the decocking lever. The P0-1 is much easier to push for some reason. Maybe the springs do need replacing. Good luck and happy Veterans Day to all of us who are Veterans!

[Tok36]

Post#26 about half way down there is a good shot of both sides of the sear cage assembled.

http://www.ncgunowners.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=42855&page=3

[KME]

Yes, it is floppy.  I have been carrying thus gun for 9 years and it is definitely not correctly assembled.  It just have no resistance at the fulcrum.  It's loose alla round and no longer feels active.  I did find a post elsewhere that explained that the springs in the sere decocker assembly were probably not correctly reinserted...

"Floppy" would not describe the decocker on my BD and D PCR, both with the CGW Pro Package.

[BDG]

Yes, it is floppy.  I have been carrying thus gun for 9 years and it is definitely not correctly assembled.  It just have no resistance at the fulcrum.  It's loose alla round and no longer feels active.  I did find a post elsewhere that explained that the springs in the sere decocker assembly were probably not correctly reinserted.

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Your diagnosis looks correct to me...
The decocking lever controller should have noticeable spring resistance when you operate the decocker. The lever should spring back to it's resting position when not being pressed.
If there is little to no spring resistance in the operation of the lever controller or the lever itself then the spring is likely not set correctly.

[doc171]

Did you check abyss1232 videos? Look at CZ 75 SP01 Tactical CGW Upgrades & Reassembly #2 time stamp starting at 21:25. Could the spring not be "hooked" properly?

[BDG]

Yes, it is floppy.  I have been carrying thus gun for 9 years and it is definitely not correctly assembled.  It just have no resistance at the fulcrum.  It's loose alla round and no longer feels active.  I did find a post elsewhere that explained that the springs in the sere decocker assembly were probably not correctly reinserted.

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Your diagnosis looks correct to me...
The decocking lever controller should have noticeable spring resistance when you operate the decocker. The lever should spring back to it's resting position when not being pressed.
If there is little to no spring resistance in the operation of the lever controller or the lever itself then the spring is likely not set correctly.

Here are the images I took of the P01 sear cage... used for reference during the PRO upgrade.
These may help...

[BDG]

Ahh, ya that's not how it should be. Check in the smithing section, someone should have pics as to how the springs should be.
   Edit.......
BDG has some great pics in his thread.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=68279
   Doesn't show a good shot of the sear though[emoji53]
   I know someone has a good pic of the decocker sear put together. Just can't remember where I saw it. Sorry.

Corrected!

[cntrydawwwg]

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[CZNate]

I have the answer to why you have slack!   I installed the pro kit and also wondered why I had so much slack with my decocker lever.   I took the sear cage out and compared it to other pics...I had the spring of the lifter on the wrong side...Just throw a slave pin in and remove the seat.   Flip the spring to the other side with a punch and re install.   Your trigger will feel better as well!  .

First pic is wrong placement and the second pic is the right placement.   Now it feels like its suppose to all nice and tight.   Good luck!


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