My Kadet experiment

[painter]

Mini-Mags are also waxed Den...honest.

All CCI ammo is waxed. Some of it is ridiculously over-waxed.

Eley ammo is waxed.

Most of the rest use a greasy/oily type lube.

[Boris_LA]

The CCI Mini Mag's that I have seen and shot have had paraffin? coating. Sometimes you can take a whole chunk of it off with your finger nail. Like a cap. Its not like oily/waxy coating that goes on lead bullets and smear. I haven't shot Troy Landry edition, but would imaging the same ammo packaged differently.

[painter]

I've seen the same on CCI-SV, which is why I started this whole firing pin experiment.

After 400 rounds of it you can get chunks of wax falling off the ramp.

[DenStinett]

Mini-Mags are also waxed Den...honest.
All CCI ammo is waxed. Some of it is ridiculously over-waxed.
Eley ammo is waxed.
Most of the rest use a greasy/oily type lube.

The CCI Mini Mag's that I have seen and shot have had paraffin? coating. Sometimes you can take a whole chunk of it off with your finger nail. Like a cap. Its not like oily/waxy coating that goes on lead bullets and smear. I haven't shot Troy Landry edition, but would imaging the same ammo packaged differently.

I've seen the same on CCI-SV, which is why I started this whole firing pin experiment.
After 400 rounds of it you can get chunks of wax falling off the ramp.

Copy that
Didn't really notice any Wax, but there may have been
Definitely nothing like an Exposed Lead Bullet CCI sells
To be honest, this is the first batch of CCIs I have been able to afford in a very long time
I've been lucky in that I horded a lot of the Federal 550 packs for years back and been working my way through them before buy and trying these CCI Troy dude's
So-far .... not real impressed   
They ran well through my Witness .22 Conversion, the Colt DGC/ACE
No noticable fails and the MkII Target loved them
I know the KADET can be AMMO finicky, but it eats Fed Bulk right up
0% failures for years
I just may have to try buying another FP and play with it like you did Paint   

[Boris_LA]

When Federal 550 pack were cheap and easy available at Walmart and sport stores, I have shot many thousand of them through Kadet. Not really accurate, but ok for 50' and shorter range. Now I mostly feed my .22s with basic lower end target grade standard velocity lead ammo. Accuracy is like day and night. No comparing. I would not call Kadet ammo finicky/picky. Both mine work really well with any ammo, but as any 22 gun it shows better accuracy with some ammo that it likes better.

[painter]

I might have mentioned it already, but I may take the extended fp that I got from CGW and use it to increase the footprint. The footprint of the Kadet pin is pretty small after filing the part that hits the rim.

[baldrage]

So, it's been a few months, and I know I'm not the only Kadet owner interested in this experiment ... any update, Painter?

[painter]

I cleaned the kit, and put about 200 rounds of Geco Rifle through it with no issues. I'm calling what I've done so far a relative success.

It's outside shooting time here, and we've switched over to centerfire pistols for bullseye, and we shoot outside. Plus I've been bitten by the shotgun bug, and have been doing a lot of that.

I have a pin to experiment with that 75Plus sent me. I'll get to that before too long

[DenStinett]

I'm very interested in Joe's new Firing Pin (testing) design
If I had plans to use a lighter Hammer Spring, I'd try his Pin myself
Let me know how it works out

[painter]

So indoor league has started up again, and I have started to get light strikes with Geco Rifle at, what I consider, an unacceptable interval...about 200 rounds. It is ammo from a different order, so it's likely also a different lot#.

I've cleaned the chamber face, and ramp, and switched to a 15 lb main spring. We'll see.

[redlightrich]

Just so we are on the same page, up till this point, you had a CGW FP spring, and a 13#MS. Is the FP a modified stock? Or did you mod the CGW extended pin ( to get a larger footprint).

I am following with great interest, and don't want to get lost thru the changes.

Thank you

Rich

[painter]

That is correct. The only change is to a 15lb main spring.

At some point I'll try to re-work the CGW pin, or the one 75 Plus sent me.

[tman]

Question for anyone using a ball point pen spring for a reduced power firing pin spring in your Kadet - what is the reliability overtime?   Are you seeing them fail overtime or do they continue to perform over the long run?   Today I gave it a go and ran ~100 rounds flawlessly.   I did not modify the firing pin footprint so this was the only change for my Kadet.  Qualitatively i feel it improved my light strikes with Winchester M22 ammo.   Before changing the spring i would see frequent light strikes with this ammo - Of course 100 rounds is a limited trial i was still encouraged.

[Joe L]

Question for anyone using a ball point pen spring for a reduced power firing pin spring in your Kadet - what is the reliability overtime?   Are you seeing them fail overtime or do they continue to perform over the long run?   

I only used the ball point spring as a substitute for the lost factory firing pin spring.  As soon as the correct replacement factory spring arrived, I put it in the gun.  I doubt that the ball point spring will survive more than a few hundred rounds, but I'll never know. 

Joe

[tman]

Thanks Joe - i had read you did this many years ago in a pinch for a spring.  I am interested in opinions/feedback as it sounds like Boris and others have tried this replacement and might have ran it for awhile.   Worst case i just keep shooting it till it fails and then pop the original back in.