P-10Cs should be coming

[ragingbulldaily]

Could you take a look at those slide marks on the picture I uploaded. Does that look normal for a brand new CZ?

[whrussell21]

Raging looks like more wear than I would expect on a brand new pistol. I haven't seen the inside of a new P-10 so it very well could be normal.

[jb1911]

Why are people questioning CZ on bringing polymer, striker fired hand guns to market.  Do you guys think they are going to stop making the great pistols that we all love?  No, they are just adding to a great catalog of small arms.  Try to relax and embrace the diversity.

[whrussell21]

Why are people questioning CZ on bringing polymer, striker fired hand guns to market.  Do you guys think they are going to stop making the great pistols that we all love?  No, they are just adding to a great catalog of small arms.  Try to relax and embrace the diversity.

I think it's the fact they can't keep up production with the CZ's everyone loves so why venture into an unknown and cause so much more production delays to their tried and true money makers. Their entire production has been put forwards the P-10C to roll it out. With all of these delays with full production I can only imagine what it will be like once they start back with other models and start shipping to other countries etc.

That's my only complaint; if they could keep up production of their other models then fine do it. But since they can't now their hurting the models that actually made them popular. The P-10 could become the best striker fired of all time but if CZ can't keep it in the hands of consumers then it doesn't matter how good it is.

[ragingbulldaily]

Thanks for your opinion. I agree.

[Psyop96]

CZUB is a business in a global market. The trend in their primary markets is towards polymer and striker fired so they have to go that route to compete and be a viable concern. If they can build a better mouse trap along those lines, kudos to them. So long as they maintain the "legacy" part of the business, we should be happy.

Not accurate at all. Polymore/striker fired have been trending LONG LONG before this year and CZ has competed and prospered just fine. Have you tried to find their P-01 Omega, Shadow 2s, etc. they can't keep them in stock unless it's on gunbroker. So to say they needed to get in this market "now" is completely wrong. This would have been a viable move 10+ years ago. Now they're in an overcrowded field and are going to struggle to make any headway vs Glock, M&P, and Sig especially in the military and law enforcement market. They don't have the abilty to be giving away tons of firearms to departments like other did/do. Now having to compete with the VP9, 509, Glock, P320, M&P, etc for civilians. They could make ground here but they would have to keep P-10s in stock.

Couple being late to the game with CZ's notoriously terrible ability to manufacture and keep firearms in stock I would expect the P-10 to simmer very quickly because people will buy other options they can actually find. They can't keep older models in stock like the P-01 and PCR and the Omega well that's like a unicorn. I can only imagine what it's going to be like once CZ UB starts back production on other models. The P-10 won't be able to be found at that point.

FWIW, I heard not too long ago at the CZUB shop that they were starting to feel the disadvantage in foreign contracts (not the US market) without a striker option. While potential clients liked the ergos of the the hammer (and polymer) pistols, they wanted to go with striker fire for easier training. Thus, it was time to start a striker option even late into the season. We in NA tend to focus on the retail business in the US market. Na zdrav?

[ragingbulldaily]

Contacted gun shop sent pictures, contacted CZUSA to send pictures. If this was a Glock or Smith I would be down at the shop. But since this is my first CZ I'll put the guns away and engage brain.. Lol... Those slide rails are worn for being brand new. Now I just need CZ to back up the pictures. Sucks, but life goes on...

[BobcatAZ]

Posted earlier but it never showed up. Does anyone have experience buying off Gunbroker? There are several P10C's at somewhat inflated prices but after countless hours trying to locate one, it might be worth it. Just not sure how safe it is buying from a Gunbroker dealer.

[whrussell21]

GB sellers have feedback like eBay. Most of them are actual shops and appear to just be trying to make a quick buck and sell on GB inflated (Oak Hill Guns) instead of saying they have them instock through their shop prices. The top sellers are literally no different than buying one off of Buds, KY Gun Co. I'm just not going to give them $650-$700 for a $499 MSRP $440 street priced tupperware gun.

[Cyanide]

BobcatAZ, I'd venture to say that about 95% of my firearms purchases over the last three years have been off of GB, and I haven't had any issues whatsoever. Mind you, we're only talking about 50 or so firearms LOL. One thing I would suggest would be look at the seller feedback. I'm actually a repeat customer with several vendors myself (Robertson Trading Post, The Attic, and Loftis). I would be wary however, of vendors who are selling the P 10 C at an inflated cost, as that just screams money grab because they know people are desperate to get their hands on one right here, right now. I will personally wait for everything to settle down and for them to be more available in the future before I worry about purchasing one.

[ragingbulldaily]

Anyone looking for two p10 mags the store I bought the gun from has two extra he's looking to move.. Let me know.

[ragingbulldaily]

http://shop.blackarsenal.com

[BobcatAZ]

Thanks for the insight into the whole Gunbroker thing. Sounds like it would be an ok alternative. I think I'll carry on with my search a little while longer while tracking the Gunbroker sales until I just can't stand the wait anymore! Without revealing the source, I heard that CZ has 25,000 P10C outstanding orders!!!

[earlan357]

Could you take a look at those slide marks on the picture I uploaded. Does that look normal for a brand new CZ?

Mine look the same and I'm not worried about it.  Not much vertical play in the slide but the side to side is noticeable.  No worse than my Glocks.  Haven't shot mine yet either.  They fire at least 5 rounds at the factory since they include a 5-shot test target.  My test target shows vertical stringing FWIW.  Not sure how many rounds they actually test fire in total though.  My feed ramp has brass marks also.  It looks to me like the internals are either cast or MIM with a black oxide finish, and black oxide isn't going to hold up to wear for more than a few cycles.  Slide and barrel look fine since they are nitrided.

[ragingbulldaily]

Thanks for the pictures and the information. Glad to know it's normal. Mine also has a bit of a wiggle side to side not much at all up and down either. Man my mag button sure is stiff though, and the texture is agresive as well. Are you planning on doing anything to smooth the texture out?