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Offline Elliot45

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P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« on: May 04, 2017, 02:23:43 PM »
I have a chance to get a P 01.  Should I get it or wait to get a P 01 Omega?  Any opinions?  Let me know.  Thanks, Elliot45

Offline TX-Prerunner

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2017, 02:28:30 PM »
You can't go wrong with either. The Omega gives you a slightly better (debatable) trigger and ability to switch between decocker and safety.
I got an Omega simply because I was able to find one online when both guns were in apparent short supply in the last few months.
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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017, 03:11:43 PM »
No difference unless you care about being able to go from decocker to manual safety. There really isn't any difference between the Omega trigger and the other P-01 besides curvature. For what Omega's are going for since they're harder to find you can spend $200 extra and get a pro package P-01 $946 from Cajun Gun Workz and a CGW  P-01 is hands down 100x  better than the stock Omega.

Personally I would buy a basic P-01 and send it to CGW for the pro package which is the route I went. Most Omegas are going for $700+ when they randomly appear on gunbroker.

Offline brianjkeene

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017, 03:32:03 PM »
There are a few shops local to me in the Dallas area that have regular P01s and the new 75b omega urban grays in stock - I'd suggest trying to find a shop that has both of those in stock if you can't find a p01 omega locally. In my opinion, I much prefer the refinement and the trigger shape of the omega triggers factory stock against the original p01 factory stock. Also, I have previously owned a p01 cgw pro kit and a p07 cgw pro kit and I liked both triggers equally. If I was looking to buy a compact hammer fired CZ today, I would no doubt wait for a black p01 omega and put the CGW pro kit in it myself.

Offline whrussell21

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2017, 04:15:41 PM »
There are a few shops local to me in the Dallas area that have regular P01s and the new 75b omega urban grays in stock - I'd suggest trying to find a shop that has both of those in stock if you can't find a p01 omega locally. In my opinion, I much prefer the refinement and the trigger shape of the omega triggers factory stock against the original p01 factory stock. Also, I have previously owned a p01 cgw pro kit and a p07 cgw pro kit and I liked both triggers equally. If I was looking to buy a compact hammer fired CZ today, I would no doubt wait for a black p01 omega and put the CGW pro kit in it myself.

What's the point of buying a P-01 Omega if you're going to put in a CGW Pro kit? You know all of the Omega internals to include trigger, hammer, etc would be replaced by the pro kit trigger, hammer, etc. Makes zero sense as the only thing left from the Omega would be the emblem engraved on the slide.

I don't even think you would still have the ability to swap out the decocker for manual safety if you install the pro kit.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 04:20:09 PM by whrussell21 »

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2017, 04:46:31 PM »
By CGW pro kit I mean their version made specifically for the Omega series p01/75b. The kit retains the omega style parts and convertible - it doesn't change the trigger pack back to a traditional cz75 trigger setup.

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2017, 05:05:40 PM »
By CGW pro kit I mean their version made specifically for the Omega series p01/75b. The kit retains the omega style parts and convertible - it doesn't change the trigger pack back to a traditional cz75 trigger setup.

Ah ok makes sense

Offline Elliot45

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 05:10:02 PM »
Thanks for everyone's replies.  So does anyone buy a CZ and not customize the trigger?  I guess what I wanted was a fairly decent trigger, especially in single action mode, without spending a lot of extra money.  I totally get customizing guns and I have both a M&P Pro 5" barrel and a M&P Shield on which I installed Apex trigger parts and both of which have exceptional triggers.  However, I thought maybe with the CZ I would get buy without spending extra.  I know I can appreciate the differences but do you think I will enjoy the gun without the extra expense? Let me know. Thanks, Elliot45

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2017, 05:17:09 PM »
Single action is plenty good in stock form on most CZs. The "problem" with most stock CZ triggers is a heavy double action and a long reset - these are all personal preference though. If I was going to buy a da/sa CZ type pistol and not do any trigger upgrades, I'd likely buy a sphinx SDP - which I've also owned and is a great pistol with a great factory trigger. All that said, I can shoot factory Sig DA/SA triggers better than factory CZ DA/SA triggers but love everything else about CZs - thus I choose to modify them usually instead of going with a Sig.

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2017, 10:43:35 AM »
I have a chance to get a P 01.  Should I get it or wait to get a P 01 Omega?  Any opinions?  Let me know.  Thanks, Elliot45

I went through this decision last year and ended up w/ the Omega.  Couldn't be happier.  Had it Cajunized by David & the Crew at CGW.  I prefer the positioning of the Omega decocker, trigger, and sights.  I also prefer decockers, so converting isn't as high on my want list, but its nice to have incase I change my mind later.

It all comes down to preferences, then to cost and availability.  I was able to find mine at a screaming deal on line- believe the guys I was dealing with mispriced it..........below $500 after shipping & FFL fees ;D
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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2017, 01:15:08 PM »
If you plan on leaving it stock as far as trigger internals etc then buy the Omega if you can get it at at decent price but good luck. If you can't find one for less than $680-$700 then I would recommend getting a regular P-01 and pro package from CGW for $946.

The CGW pro package P-01 would be 100x better than an Omega for maybe $200 more for the current Omega going rate.
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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2017, 02:05:19 PM »
I have a 2016 non-omega P-01 that is factory stock. I'm just an average shooter that goes to the range every two months or so.  I have several other semis that I shoot, including a Grand Power X-calibur that has an excellent competition trigger with a 2.5-3.0# pull. I feel very satisfied with the stock P-01 trigger, and I just can't see any good reason to modify it. I had an SW M&P 9 FS, so I know what a bad trigger feels like. Target below is off hand, semi rapid fire from 15 yards with the stock P-01.


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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2017, 06:28:38 PM »
If you plan on leaving it stock as far as trigger internals etc then buy the Omega if you can get it at at decent price but good luck. If you can't find one for less than $680-$700 then I would recommend getting a regular P-01 and pro package from CGW for $946.

The CGW pro package P-01 would be 100x better than an Omega for maybe $200 more for the current Omega going rate.

crazy 680-700 I bought mine for $585 anyone want to buy it for $700.. I will sell my p01 omega immediately!
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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2017, 07:18:27 PM »
If you plan on leaving it stock as far as trigger internals etc then buy the Omega if you can get it at at decent price but good luck. If you can't find one for less than $680-$700 then I would recommend getting a regular P-01 and pro package from CGW for $946.

The CGW pro package P-01 would be 100x better than an Omega for maybe $200 more for the current Omega going rate.

crazy 680-700 I bought mine for $585 anyone want to buy it for $700.. I will sell my p01 omega immediately!

That's what the last few new ones i have seen on gunbroker go for. $785 on one of them.

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Re: P 01 or P 01 Omega?
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2017, 07:28:34 PM »
Although I do not have either pistol I do have a P-07 Duty and a SP-01 Tactical.  Out of the box the omega trigger system is only slightly better that the original CZ trigger system.  New the omega system is lighter and smoother.

But after a few hundred rounds and the triggers are broken-in,  the original trigger gets much better than the omega trigger.  To me,  It just seem to be smoother (less gritty) and the wall is more consistent and predictable.  It is easier for me to stage the trigger consistently on the SP-01 rather than on the P-07.  By the way, Both pistol are stocked and no polishing of internals were done except those that occurred through regular use.