P10C issues

[murk23]

2 days and 500 rounds in with the P10 and it's not looking good.  As already identified the pistol auto forwards.  I had the gun several times with both 124 gr gold dots and 124 gr hsts auto forward and then go nose down and hang up on the feed ramp.  The gun also auto forwarded on an empty chamber several times.  I had one failure to feed with ball ammo during an auto forward where the slide over ran the round and it got stuck at a steep angle nose up against the chamber.  Both mine and my friends gun exhibited this problem.  In addition to this his gun frequently drops the mag with two rounds left.  Best we can figure is that the follower or a round is somehow contacting and bumping the mag catch during recoil.  Kind of disappointing.

[whrussell21]

Sadly I predicted this. Main reason I wanted to wait until all the kinks are worked out.

[deadduck357]

Reasons why I'm holding out.

[murk23]

Forgot to mention that the triggers were drastically different between the two guns out of the box.  They differed in initial take up, weight and where they both broke.  Fortunately mine is better, it's lighter and has almost no over travel but as a result it breaks almost all the way against the frame.

[armoredman]

Have you contacted CZ_USA yet? Yeah, sometimes Beta testers get the bugs, and sometimes we don't. Call 1-800-955-4486 on Monday morning and tell them what the problems are. I do remember the auto-forward being listed as a bonus, but not on an empty mag - that's weird.

[murk23]

Got to contact them tomorrow.  Unfortunately I don't see auto forwarding as a positive like some people do.  This gun being a prime example of the level of uncertainty it fosters.  I'm hoping cz is gonna put some horsepower behind the gun to make sure it's right since it shoots really well for me.  It's definitely not ready for primetime though, choking on duty ammo.

[earlan357]

I have two in black and fde, and I've noticed inconsistency in the triggers and slide stops.  The black on had a smooth 6lb trigger out of the box.  The fde one had a grittier 5.5lb trigger with less over-travel and the trigger broke further back in the trigger guard.

The slide stop spring in the black one has much less tension than the fde.  The black one actually popped off the slide stop retaining hook during a class.  The fde one is strong enough that when I drive out the large roll pin, it pushes the front rail insert out of the frame.  It was bent much further down than the black one and was harder to put in it's cutout on the rail insert.

The black one doesn't auto forward, but the fde one does.  I think it's a function of the slide stop spring pressure.  I'm going to experiment with bending the spring to find the sweet spot.  I don't really like auto forward either.

I have over 1k rounds now with the black one with zero feeding issues though.  Only 200 with the fde so it's too early to tell.

[deadduck357]

CZ-USA may be closed Monday due to the holiday.

[murk23]

Funny my friends is black and mine is Fde so it seems there is a difference in the color transition.  His recoil spring seemed heavier as well.  Try loading a mag half full of hollow points next time your out and doing slide lock reloads feeding the half empty mag.  It didn't seem to choke if the mag was stacked to capacity but as soon as it was downloaded by one it would.  In comparing the two guns it looks like the black one had more engagement on the slide with the slide stop as well.  I was considering stoning the stop down a little where it sits under the ejector to try and get some more engagement.  It does seem like the stop spring is excessively tight as well.

[philbun]

I just tried my FDE to auto forward with different ammo and mags. I slammed it hard wouldn't do it for nothing. Shot a class this weekend end with 3 different ammo brands about 600 rounds no issues at all. I hope you get yours figured out. I really like the gun.

[armoredman]

Mine autoforwarded once, after that, it was just as normal. Fed everything i gave it, Hornaday Critical Duty, Remington 115gr JHP, cast Lee 124gr, everything ran like a top.

[murk23]

Guns on it's way back to CZ.

[whrussell21]

Guns on it's way back to CZ.

Good to hear they're taking care of it but sad to see it happen to a brand new pistol.

[TribeOfIdiots]

Mine auto-forwards on a full magazine, no problems in ~30 reloads, but won't on anything less than full.

[Indy_Tim]

My slide drops automatically when I insert a mag quite consistently.  I like that feature and wish I could get other SD guns to do the same.  In just over 400 rounds, I've come to really like the gun.  I don't know why, but I seem to be able to shoot the P10 faster into a smaller group than most other guns.  Maybe it's that it points well for me.  Maybe it's something else.  I don't know, but I do like the thing.