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[Springless]

I just ordered a B6P full size for $234.74 shipped!  Would've ordered the CM9 gen 2 but they are stealing one mag from the kit and selling it  .  I am looking forward to the SAR.  I've handled one before and they are sweet feeling guns.  Do they have a removable front sight?

Sarsilmaz semi automatics always have only one mag, don't think it's fair say CDNN is yanking one and selling it.

Not correct! Sarsilmaz only had one mag in the past because EAA was only sending one mag. The Sars firearms imported by TR Imports (and sold by CDNN) come with two mags but CDNN is, for a fact, pulling one mag from the kits they have gotten from TR Imports. I actually took issue with CDNN on this mag yanking business.  I am sure the existing inventories of B6Ps did not come from TR Imports, but the current CM9s, ST9s & ST10s are coming from TR Imports and have their import stamp on the right side slide.

 If you buy one of the TR Imports Sarsilmaz handguns you will get a note in your kit telling you that the included (hard copy) manual is basically not up to snuff and you should go to the TR Imports site and download the current manual. Good luck with that because there is no manual for download at the TR Import web site. Unless the deal is just irresistible I'd suggest folks wait until UTAS-USA gets Sarsilmaz distribution set up with warranty, parts, mags, etc. as you can not even register the promised five year Sars handgun warranty on the TR Imports site at this time.

[esoterra23]

Like a rookie, I fell for CDNN's "steal a mag" trick.  I could have sworn that I saw 2 mags advertised on CDNN's site around the time that Classic Firearms was running their big $249 special.  I missed out on the Classic deal, so I fell for CDNN's email as soon as they advertised free shipping on all firearms.  Everyone else was selling the gun/kit with 2 mags, so I didn't even check until the gun came in to my LGS.  By the way, for those who still doubt that CDNN is robbing a mag out of the kit, the included manual clearly states the package includes two magazines.  Sure, there's a TR Imports disclaimer on the back of the manual referencing that an updated manual is available for download, but there isn't actually one available for download.  So I emailed TR Imports requesting they address this tactic/concern and suggested that different variations of kits should have distinct model numbers to help consumers discern the difference.  Not sure what impact it will have, but it seems like the only recourse available considering I feel slightly duped.

[Springless]

Like a rookie, I fell for CDNN's "steal a mag" trick.  I could have sworn that I saw 2 mags advertised on CDNN's site around the time that Classic Firearms was running their big $249 special.  I missed out on the Classic deal, so I fell for CDNN's email as soon as they advertised free shipping on all firearms.  Everyone else was selling the gun/kit with 2 mags, so I didn't even check until the gun came in to my LGS.  By the way, for those who still doubt that CDNN is robbing a mag out of the kit, the included manual clearly states the package includes two magazines.  Sure, there's a TR Imports disclaimer on the back of the manual referencing that an updated manual is available for download, but there isn't actually one available for download.  So I emailed TR Imports requesting they address this tactic/concern and suggested that different variations of kits should have distinct model numbers to help consumers discern the difference.  Not sure what impact it will have, but it seems like the only recourse available considering I feel slightly duped.

TR Imports is not the offender. They ship the mags in the gun kits. Call CDNN and ask to talk to the boss. If you get any smoke blown up your backside got to the BBB Abilene website and write a review about your missing mag. That is what I finally had to do and they got my missing mag right out to me shipping included. Now they did put in their answer to the BBB a lot of baloney to make themselves look innocent, but my point is simple. The Ford dealer doesn't take the spare tire out of cars that come from the Ford plant and gun dealers should not be picking parts out of kits that come from the distributor for retail sale.

Many years ago I worked part time for a retail audio chain and the franchisee use to pick stereo cables and antennas out of the retail stereo boxes and would then try to sell them to folks who bought stereos that should have included the parts. Some customers connected with the manufacturer and before you know it the Attorney General was suing their pants off over their petty picking.  I know the gun business is very competitive and there are some mighty creative techniques being used to protect profits, but this practice of lifting parts that are intended for the customer is just not kosher. If they get the attention or the wrong folks there will be a mighty high price to pay.

[DanPop985]

My take... CDNN is pulling a sneaky but they are at least stating 1 magazine. Obviously by pulling the 2nd mag they are creating a lower price... Fair enough as long as they are stating 1 mag. Even so $230 + $25 for an additional mag is still the cheapest price for a B6P.

[Springless]

My take... CDNN is pulling a sneaky but they are at least stating 1 magazine. Obviously by pulling the 2nd mag they are creating a lower price... Fair enough as long as they are stating 1 mag. Even so $230 + $25 for an additional mag is still the cheapest price for a B6P.

The B6Ps came from EAA with one mag only in the kit. I suppose Sarsilmaz could verify how many mags the kits had when they were shipped to EAA. . What EAA was doing is another discussion, but it looks like we will see how it washes out when UTAS is in the saddle with Sars pretty soon.

The CM9s com from TR Imports with two mags. TR Imports did not pull an extra mag before sending the kits to their dealers

[esoterra23]

Like a rookie, I fell for CDNN's "steal a mag" trick.  I could have sworn that I saw 2 mags advertised on CDNN's site around the time that Classic Firearms was running their big $249 special.  I missed out on the Classic deal, so I fell for CDNN's email as soon as they advertised free shipping on all firearms.  Everyone else was selling the gun/kit with 2 mags, so I didn't even check until the gun came in to my LGS.  By the way, for those who still doubt that CDNN is robbing a mag out of the kit, the included manual clearly states the package includes two magazines.  Sure, there's a TR Imports disclaimer on the back of the manual referencing that an updated manual is available for download, but there isn't actually one available for download.  So I emailed TR Imports requesting they address this tactic/concern and suggested that different variations of kits should have distinct model numbers to help consumers discern the difference.  Not sure what impact it will have, but it seems like the only recourse available considering I feel slightly duped.

Update.  TR Imports replied to my email. I won't mention the representative's name because I did not ask permission to quote them, but here's the gist of it...

"I completely understand your frustration. I will tell you that you are not alone in your experience with your purchase from CDNN. To give you a little background info, we sold those guns to CDNN with two mags, and were under the impression they were going to be sold with 2 mags. They did not consult or inform us that they were going to pull one of the mags out and sell the guns with only one. While this is frustrating to both you and I, the plus side here is that you paid a lower price than you would have if the gun had 2 mags. Once a dealer already has possession of the firearms, there is very little we can force them to do (i.e. changing SKUs on website, printing new labels and putting them on each gun, editing their internal inventory and accounting system, etc.)."

There you have it. CDNN is solely to blame. I will be calling them next and possibly the BBB.

[Dezfan]

I got burned by CDNN as well.

Not happy to find out they are screwing their customers this way.

I will be calling them and them to voice by displeasure.

[esoterra23]

TR Imports is not the offender. They ship the mags in the gun kits. Call CDNN and ask to talk to the boss. If you get any smoke blown up your backside got to the BBB Abilene website and write a review about your missing mag. That is what I finally had to do and they got my missing mag right out to me shipping included. Now they did put in their answer to the BBB a lot of baloney to make themselves look innocent, but my point is simple. The Ford dealer doesn't take the spare tire out of cars that come from the Ford plant and gun dealers should not be picking parts out of kits that come from the distributor for retail sale.

Many years ago I worked part time for a retail audio chain and the franchisee use to pick stereo cables and antennas out of the retail stereo boxes and would then try to sell them to folks who bought stereos that should have included the parts. Some customers connected with the manufacturer and before you know it the Attorney General was suing their pants off over their petty picking.  I know the gun business is very competitive and there are some mighty creative techniques being used to protect profits, but this practice of lifting parts that are intended for the customer is just not kosher. If they get the attention or the wrong folks there will be a mighty high price to pay.

Thanks for the info. TR Imports confirmed that CDNN was shipped 2 mags per kit. They are also frustrated.  I will be contacting CDNN and possibly their local BBB.