TIPS ON CHANGING SIGHTS ON THE P10C?

[walker2713]

I've got a Dawson front f/o sight coming today, and would like to hear of any techniques or issues involving removing the stock front sight and installing the Dawson.

I'm new to CZ, but not to pistols....

Many thanks,

George

[earlan357]

Completely remove the setscrew.  The pocket for the setwcrew is pretty deep and if you only loosen it, it will hang on the divot.  Lock the slide in a vice padded with leather or soft jaws.  I use an 8" long piece of delrin stock as a punch.  Won't hurt the sight or leave brass or aluminum marks.  Then tap it out with a standard hammer.

My Dawson front sight was actually tighter than the factory one.  Make sure you install the setscrew in the dawson front before you tap it in.  It screws in from the bottom, and you engage the hex key through the small hole in the top at the fiber channel. 

The little plastic tipped aluminum tool Dawson provides is thoughtful, but I destroyed the plastic tip on the first tap, and it's too short to get a secure hold.

[walker2713]

Thanks, earlan357....the kind of information I was looking for.

[Ran]

I agree with earlan.  The Dawson sights are often tighter than are the OEM front sights.  If its too tight to install, you can drag the base of the Dawson sight on fine sandpaper (I think they suggest 220 grit, but I was successful using 600 grit).  I was able to use the nylon tipped punch that Dawson sends along without breaking it, but I can definitely see how someone might have troubles with it.  I think that I now have 3 or 4 of the Dawson sight punches sitting around..

[BobcatAZ]

I am considering changing the stock front sight to fiber optic but honestly am quite confused about what's compatible with the stock rear which I could easily black out. Seems like Dawson, CGW and CZC are all stating different sizes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[earlan357]

I am considering changing the stock front sight to fiber optic but honestly am quite confused about what's compatible with the stock rear which I could easily black out. Seems like Dawson, CGW and CZC are all stating different sizes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dawson measures front sight heights from the top of the slide to the top of the blade.  I measured my P10 Front (marked "#3") as .150" tall.  Dawson has .155 tall P09 fiber fronts in stock.  Also just saw this: https://dawsonprecision.com/new-dawson-precision-cz-p10-c-carry-fixed-sight-set-black-rear-fiber-optic-front/  They don't have a ledge to rack off the rear post though.

[chadbrochills]

I am considering changing the stock front sight to fiber optic but honestly am quite confused about what's compatible with the stock rear which I could easily black out. Seems like Dawson, CGW and CZC are all stating different sizes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dawson measures front sight heights from the top of the slide to the top of the blade.  I measured my P10 Front (marked "#3") as .150" tall.  Dawson has .155 tall P09 fiber fronts in stock.  Also just saw this: https://dawsonprecision.com/new-dawson-precision-cz-p10-c-carry-fixed-sight-set-black-rear-fiber-optic-front/  They don't have a ledge to rack off the rear post though.

Interesting. I kind of made my own by getting some Testors enamel paint in flat black to black out the rear white dots and fluorescent orange which I used to put a dot over the front white dot. SO much easier for me to shoot now.

[vern56]

I like a fiber optic front as well.
Guys at Cajun say it (the dawson) is pretty much the same height as stock. I'm going to give it a try.

Also, I feel cheated by CZ with the 2nd P10 they sent me. Very accurate, magazine release works. Slide release works. Nothing I can complain in the forum about.

[BobcatAZ]

I see Dawson has a set of sights for the P10C now. FO front and blacked out rear. What I do not understand is why they made the front sight wider than the stock sight (.125 vs .118)? The notch in their rear sight is the same as the stock sight (.125). May just get their P07/ P09 front sight (.100) wide, .155 tall (CGW sells the same one) and black out the dots on the stock rear. Trying to figure out what size fiber optic sights to get is confusing for somebody that has never had them before!

[earlan357]

I see Dawson has a set of sights for the P10C now. FO front and blacked out rear. What I do not understand is why they made the front sight wider than the stock sight (.125 vs .118)? The notch in their rear sight is the same as the stock sight (.125). May just get their P07/ P09 front sight (.100) wide, .155 tall (CGW sells the same one) and black out the dots on the stock rear. Trying to figure out what size fiber optic sights to get is confusing for somebody that has never had them before!

My calipers measure the P-10 factory rear sight notch at .115" wide and the front sight post at .120" wide.  Dawson probably went with the .125" front and rear because it's a common ratio.  I agree though, I'd rather have a .100 or .110" width front and a .125" to .140" rear.  I have 20/30 uncorrected with astigmatism.  How's your vision? 

[glockknuckle]

Called and ordered the blacked out rear with a custom blacked out .095" wide front blade from Dawson yesterday. $10 more and 2-3 weeks for the custom front.

[BobcatAZ]

I am pretty much blind without my bifocals so front sight focus is my issue. Do well enough for defensive purposes at the range with P10C stock sights, actually much better than with my G27 with TruGlo's. Gentleman on another thread replaced front sight only and blacked out rear dots and looks like it would work well. Get the slightly thinner FO blade, low profile so no holster issues, retains the cocking ledge of the stock rear, same POA/POI and only $40.00. I hate to buy twice though so if I am missing something here please point it out.

[gunkucool]

Completely remove the setscrew.  The pocket for the setwcrew is pretty deep and if you only loosen it, it will hang on the divot.  Lock the slide in a vice padded with leather or soft jaws.  I use an 8" long piece of delrin stock as a punch.  Won't hurt the sight or leave brass or aluminum marks.  Then tap it out with a standard hammer.

My Dawson front sight was actually tighter than the factory one.  Make sure you install the setscrew in the dawson front before you tap it in.  It screws in from the bottom, and you engage the hex key through the small hole in the top at the fiber channel. 

The little plastic tipped aluminum tool Dawson provides is thoughtful, but I destroyed the plastic tip on the first tap, and it's too short to get a secure hold.

Is Dws setscrew the same dimension with the original one? Last year, I bought the FO front sight for my other gun ( Tanfoglio witness match). The setscrew was a joke. It much smaller than the original one. They suggested to put a glue in the hole to make that little joke screw to be "fit" in place; and added some glue too on the nearby area. In short, is the DW's screwset for this gun useable as It should?

[earlan357]

Is Dws setscrew the same dimension with the original one? Last year, I bought the FO front sight for my other gun ( Tanfoglio witness match). The setscrew was a joke. It much smaller than the original one. They suggested to put a glue in the hole to make that little joke screw to be "fit" in place; and added some glue too on the nearby area. In short, is the DW's screwset for this gun useable as It should?

Glock front sights are held on only by a small hex nut and require "glue"/thread locker.  Here's mine coming loose at the end of a 2-day vehicle class, about 900 rounds in.  The blue loctite wasn't enough apparently for the round count/heat/rain. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJaCfxEvhw

The Dawson setscrew is tiny but it's really just there for insurance.  The fit in the dovetail is tight enough to keep it in place.  When I replaced my P-10 sights, I estimated needing a .190" front.  Since I was pretty sure I'd need to change it again, I didn't even bother with the setscrew.  I had to sand the bottom of the sight for it to fit in the dovetail and it was very tight.  It was shooting 1" higher than I liked but I proceeded to shoot and win an IDPA match with it.  The front didn't move at all for 150 rounds.  I needed a vice, 14oz hammer, and a foot long rod of delrin to pound it out.  When I replaced it with a .205" front, it was just as tight in the dovetail, but I did use the setscrew with some blue loctite just in case.

[gunkucool]

Thanks again earlan, you responded faster than any technical supports available in this galaxy....It is .155" for the front FO right? Why was .190? and even .205"? Also, is the cgw fo front the same thing with Dwson? So, the setscrew has the same size/dimension with the original one right?