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Nutnfancy P10C Review
« on: September 07, 2017, 05:30:11 PM »
Nutn has a review of the P10C up.

His quick synopsis: "An easy review, really.  For me, at least, it's easy.  That's because the gun is EXCELLENT."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CAXusGYajc

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 06:22:09 PM »
I avoid anything associated with that guy. He reminds me of an annoying neighbor that tries way too hard.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 06:38:22 PM »
Some guys like him, some don't.  But I don't think you get a more honest reviewer.  Yes, he has an admitted bias towards Glocks and Sigs.  But he never sugar coats problems or sweeps them under the rug.  (As evident in his P07 review)

I don't care for all the watch stuff he has been doing lately, but like I said...you would have a tough time finding a more honest reviewer with as broad of a experience base with as many different firearms as he as while putting them through thorough evaluation.

I don't care for Hicock45's reviews, some guys think he's the greatest ever.  I'm glad we all have choices.  Different strokes for different folks.  YMMV.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 08:37:51 PM »
Nutn's videos have good info, and I think he knows his stuff. I just can't listen to him ramble for forty minutes to get it. It's YouTube, let's stay on topic and keep it to twenty minutes, eh? To be fair, Hickock runs long too, sometimes.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 12:33:32 AM »
He is okay, rambles a lot and for me, I can't stand when he wrinkles those bleep paper targets. I've seen video's where he stops to take a drink, or whatever.  Edit, edit, edit.  But that's me, can't stand the feature length, enough rambling on for 40 minutes.  I know he has cut down the length of his video's, he said he could see that only 25% or so of viewers would watch the full length.  Regardless, he did like the P10C, it is a very good gun, my primary carry now.
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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 03:35:35 AM »
Some guys like him, some don't.  But I don't think you get a more honest reviewer.  Yes, he has an admitted bias towards Glocks and Sigs.  But he never sugar coats problems or sweeps them under the rug.  (As evident in his P07 review)

If I remember correctly he was not that big of a fan of the P-07 but loved the P-09 am i correct? (Sorry I don't have 15 hours to sit through both of those videos a second time lmao all joking aside I really can't remember but thought that was his outcome, and it was of the P-07 Duty ye?)
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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 03:47:16 AM »
This is why most of my videos are short, to the point, and with music - nobody paid $15 each to sit through them because I can't hire Sam Elliot! :D
I agree, with Nutnfancy on this one - I have watched some of his videos all the way through...but not most of them.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 04:39:44 AM »
I don't think you get a more honest reviewer. 

Agreed.  His videos are a little long, he's obnoxious, and his philosophies are sometimes outside the scope of what I base my decisions on, but he clearly doesn't care what we think about what he thinks ( a good thing), and he's clear about WHY he thinks what he does and upon what he bases his decisions, and I can work with that.  There's a clear reference point from which I can interpret and apply his opinions.  He is one of two regular gun reviewers whose videos I seek out and will allow to influence my own decisions.  The other is Patrick Kelley.  I care much more about how these two guys react to the guns they're shooting than how much mud you can stomp into a pistol before it fails.

Sadly, I'm offshore and can't stream the video.  :/

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 09:31:54 AM »
If I remember correctly he was not that big of a fan of the P-07 but loved the P-09 am i correct?

P07 Duty was a .40 caliber, review posted in 2012.
Accuracy was very good.
Loved the weight, loved the size.
He tested 2 guns, both had failures to go into battery.  He sent the first gun in to CZ for repair, it came back and still had the same issue.  He tested the second gun, it also had failures to go into battery. 
He had the guns for over a year before publishing the review and has several failures on video.
He liked gun, it's features, and accuracy, didn't like the reliability of his two test guns.

P09 was a Suppressor Ready version posted in 2016.
He called it "Near Perfect."
He said he had, "No reservations on this gun, dudes."  ;)
Gun ran flawlessly with and without a suppressor.


He is one of two regular gun reviewers whose videos I seek out and will allow to influence my own decisions.  The other is Patrick Kelley.

I also enjoy Patrick's videos.  He's always got a good attitude, and if the gun has a malfunction, he shows it.  I like that he runs the guns fast through a steel challenge match, and shows that part of the video unedited.  There are no cherry picked data points.

I think you and I are in the minority, that we like raw data.  Show the guns running, show accuracy testing, and we will interpret our own results from that data.  I've watched videos (not just gun reviews) and come away with a completely different conclusion than the presenter.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 11:50:36 AM »
If I remember correctly he was not that big of a fan of the P-07 but loved the P-09 am i correct?

P07 Duty was a .40 caliber, review posted in 2012.
Accuracy was very good.
Loved the weight, loved the size.
He tested 2 guns, both had failures to go into battery.  He sent the first gun in to CZ for repair, it came back and still had the same issue.  He tested the second gun, it also had failures to go into battery. 
He had the guns for over a year before publishing the review and has several failures on video.
He liked gun, it's features, and accuracy, didn't like the reliability of his two test guns.

P09 was a Suppressor Ready version posted in 2016.
He called it "Near Perfect."
He said he had, "No reservations on this gun, dudes."  ;)
Gun ran flawlessly with and without a suppressor.


That's what I thought which to me honestly says a 2016 or newer (and probably older) P-07 in the correct caliber 9mm (40 is gross lol) he would have been saying pretty much the same thing as he did with the 09
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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 04:50:12 PM »
I like him okay, he is a bit goofy.  We have something in common in that we are both retired military pilots, him USAF, me USN...so I'm obviously much better looking  8)  The biggest problem I have is he recommends or doesn't recommend a gun based on a sample of one, the one he is shooting.  I have had bad Sig's (my current MCX is a huge problem child), problem Glocks, etc but difficult to base a decision on one gun.  I was thinking the other day, I've never had a malfunctioning CZ...I've owned 7 of them (6 handguns, 1 rifle), only my second and new P10C has yet to be shot. 

BTW, he really liked the P10C. 
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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 06:32:34 PM »
Nutnfanny is alright, the only problem his videos are way to long 30+ min. Along for me but he tends to cover almost everything.

All these videos are " food for thought " for many to get a head start on guns they may be interested in.

I'm not big on him running through a desert for 15 min. Just tell us about the gun and how it worked.

In the end when you buy a gun you may get a good one or you may not. It's important to know how the company that makes your gun handles it's warranty and what you have to do to get something fixed. That could the most important aspect in which gun you buy. In fact I wish there better ways to check up on some of these companies regarding their warranties and how they handle them.

In fact all the forums should have a section dedicated to companies warranties.




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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 09:13:22 PM »
If I remember correctly he was not that big of a fan of the P-07 but loved the P-09 am i correct?

P07 Duty was a .40 caliber, review posted in 2012.
Accuracy was very good.
Loved the weight, loved the size.
He tested 2 guns, both had failures to go into battery.  He sent the first gun in to CZ for repair, it came back and still had the same issue.  He tested the second gun, it also had failures to go into battery. 
He had the guns for over a year before publishing the review and has several failures on video.
He liked gun, it's features, and accuracy, didn't like the reliability of his two test guns.

P09 was a Suppressor Ready version posted in 2016.
He called it "Near Perfect."
He said he had, "No reservations on this gun, dudes."  ;)
Gun ran flawlessly with and without a suppressor.


He is one of two regular gun reviewers whose videos I seek out and will allow to influence my own decisions.  The other is Patrick Kelley.

I also enjoy Patrick's videos.  He's always got a good attitude, and if the gun has a malfunction, he shows it.  I like that he runs the guns fast through a steel challenge match, and shows that part of the video unedited.  There are no cherry picked data points.

I think you and I are in the minority, that we like raw data.  Show the guns running, show accuracy testing, and we will interpret our own results from that data.  I've watched videos (not just gun reviews) and come away with a completely different conclusion than the presenter.

Sounds like my experience with CZs in .40.  I think that some .40 compacts come from CZ undersprung.  I have to admit though, that I don't know if I've ever made it all the way through a Nut'n'fancy video.  I just can't invest 30 minutes of time to gain 2 minutes of information.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 11:07:32 PM »
Sounds like my experience with CZs in .40.  I think that some .40 compacts come from CZ undersprung.  I have to admit though, that I don't know if I've ever made it all the way through a Nut'n'fancy video.  I just can't invest 30 minutes of time to gain 2 minutes of information.

I've had pretty good luck with CZ's in .40.  I've got over 20,000 rounds through a 75B .40 converted to SAO (I shoot it in Limited Division) and have under 2,000 through a Compact .40.  My uncle shot a TS in .40 quite a bit before moving on to S_I's.

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Re: Nutnfancy P10C Review
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 11:10:50 PM »
If I remember correctly he was not that big of a fan of the P-07 but loved the P-09 am i correct?

P07 Duty was a .40 caliber, review posted in 2012.
Accuracy was very good.
Loved the weight, loved the size.
He tested 2 guns, both had failures to go into battery.  He sent the first gun in to CZ for repair, it came back and still had the same issue.  He tested the second gun, it also had failures to go into battery. 
He had the guns for over a year before publishing the review and has several failures on video.
He liked gun, it's features, and accuracy, didn't like the reliability of his two test guns.

P09 was a Suppressor Ready version posted in 2016.
He called it "Near Perfect."
He said he had, "No reservations on this gun, dudes."  ;)
Gun ran flawlessly with and without a suppressor.


He is one of two regular gun reviewers whose videos I seek out and will allow to influence my own decisions.  The other is Patrick Kelley.

I also enjoy Patrick's videos.  He's always got a good attitude, and if the gun has a malfunction, he shows it.  I like that he runs the guns fast through a steel challenge match, and shows that part of the video unedited.  There are no cherry picked data points.

I think you and I are in the minority, that we like raw data.  Show the guns running, show accuracy testing, and we will interpret our own results from that data.  I've watched videos (not just gun reviews) and come away with a completely different conclusion than the presenter.
Yeah, I really like Patrick Kelly's videos too.  I watch some of Nutn's but I'm always skipping ahead.  I have a hard time watching one in it's entirety.