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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« on: September 27, 2017, 10:23:18 AM »
So I would prefer not to wait for several hundred dry fires to find some rubbing areas in the action of the 75's.

A specific example is my SP-01. Over time I noticed much more wear/polishing on the hammer where it contacts the frame as it rotates back and forward in Double Action. I've realized that this is not only causing a rougher DA trigger pull, but it is creating additional friction and reducing the energy of the hammer as it strikes the firing pin. I'm working those areas over now, but I want to be able to detect these wear patterns sooner. 

What are some ways you all determine/find areas of contact/rubbing/interfacing/wear like this so you can address them earlier/when you get the pistols? Thanks for all the help!
« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 10:39:15 AM by Scarlett Pistol »
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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 10:49:04 AM »
I look for Schmeky's polishing posts and polish where he tells me to.  ;)

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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 01:20:09 PM »
That's what I followed and I am very happy with the results.

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 03:05:00 PM »
I polish mine from new, so I polish all contact areas. I've never seen a benefit to suffering through a "break in period". I test new guns for function and detail strip to make sure there isn't a warranty issue, then the polishing gets done and Cajun parts go in.

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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 03:27:16 PM »
After polishing and putting in some Cajun spice,  I would replace the barrel bushing.  Does nothing for trigger pull but greatly tightens up the group on a new gun or one with 8,000 rounds thru it.

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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 04:27:43 PM »
I polish mine from new, so I polish all contact areas. I've never seen a benefit to suffering through a "break in period". I test new guns for function and detail strip to make sure there isn't a warranty issue, then the polishing gets done and Cajun parts go in.

That is the way I like to induct new pistols as well. This is definitely a request for a process to identify issues that are less common.

I'm definitely not a professional gunsmith. I've just gotten to the point where I have worked on enough CZ's where I have run into these outlier (uncommon) issues. I think I need to document the one I am working on right now and that post will help this request make more sense.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 04:30:54 PM by Scarlett Pistol »
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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 11:30:12 PM »
 I've used blue machinist dye. Doesn't take long.

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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 12:46:45 AM »
I look for Schmeky's polishing posts and polish where he tells me to.  ;)

Add the mag release  for a very light polishing of both ends of the rod where it passes through the frame.  Mine felt gritty and NOT smooth.
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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 01:19:35 AM »
I've used blue machinist dye. Doesn't take long.

Ahh yes, that is something I'm looking for! Thanks!
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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 06:38:10 AM »
You can use a Sharpie just to see where the contact points are.  I use s silver one on black parts and black ones on the lighter parts. 
You can use a knife sharpening stone (new) and run the part (like a hammer side or trigger bar) over what you think is a flat surface on the part and see the high points pretty quickly with just a few passes.
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Re: How you test for contact areas on new pistols?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 12:09:21 AM »
You are very welcome