**AIWB** p10c -OR- P07?

[dmd6toe]

Hello to all! Looking to set up an appendix carry firearm with RMR that can double as a home defense gun with a suppressor. I have bmnarrowed it down to these two but I am not sure which route would be the best. Thanks for your input in advance🇺🇸

[Firemanjones]

Well since you asked, P-07 for the DA/SA.

[Thebillsman]

first post, wants an rmr'd compact 9 to carry appendix.

I like this guy already

P-10C

[cremaley]

I would probably go with a DA/SA for appendix carry. Can't be too safe protecting the family jewels. I carry my Springfield XDE in the DA mode with the safety on in the appendix position and my CZ P-10 OWB at four o'clock. One of my most important decisions of the day is which gun to carry.

[briang2ad]

Don?t .

[dpsk]

I don't use an RMR, but I carry my P07 AIWB in Vedder LightTuck holster.  I decock the the hammer with a round chambered, and feel that the heavy DA first pull makes for extremely safe carry.  I ALWAYS ride my thumb on the back of the hammer when holstering so I can immediately feel if something is infringing on the trigger and take corrective action.

[tact]

I? always think it?s silly people think that AIWB is unsafe. ....oh well.  Go for the P10.

[Mjolnir]

I? always think it?s silly people think that AIWB is unsafe. ....oh well.  Go for the P10.

It's just less forgiving or "less safe"; not "unsafe".

But you knew that.


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[shaneruss]

I don't use an RMR, but I carry my P07 AIWB in Vedder LightTuck holster.  I decock the the hammer with a round chambered, and feel that the heavy DA first pull makes for extremely safe carry.  I ALWAYS ride my thumb on the back of the hammer when holstering so I can immediately feel if something is infringing on the trigger and take corrective action.

+1... Everything he said, except the holster. I use a JM Custom Kydex AIWB.

[Jigo23]

I don't use an RMR, but I carry my P07 AIWB in Vedder LightTuck holster.  I decock the the hammer with a round chambered, and feel that the heavy DA first pull makes for extremely safe carry.  I ALWAYS ride my thumb on the back of the hammer when holstering so I can immediately feel if something is infringing on the trigger and take corrective action.

I wouldn?t be too worried about re-holstering since generally you?re not doing that under stress, and your method of riding the hammer in should preclude a ND due to shirt getting caught in trigger.
I?d be more concerned about trying to draw and fire quick accurate shots on target UNDER STRESS. The stress-driven adrenaline can easily turn a 10-12lb trigger pull into a 3-4lb trigger pull. Fairly easy to simulate somewhat in training (obnoxious shot timer tone in the ear, draw and fire 2 shots on target in 3 seconds, then draw and fire 3 shots on target in 2 seconds before that obnoxious tone sounds for example) Not that hard to do but not something I?d even care to practice with my own family jewels from AIWB. Hopefully you guys with the big iron ones do tho   I can comfortably carrying either my G19 with RMR IWB at 2:00-4:00 position or CZ P-09 w/RMR OWB, but my gut hurts just thinking about the RMR digging in with AIWB carry. Can?t even remember being that skinny lol.
To each his own according to their capabilities...y?all be safe out there and happy shootin?!

[s0nspark]

My policy with AIWB is to only use hammer-fired guns. So, P-07...

I also second the nod to JM Custom Kydex. Tony makes awesome holsters!

[briang2ad]

Folks:  Unless you have shot a man a couple of times, you don't have a clue how much stress you will feel on your first time - or even to draw on a human.  Just keep all this in mind.  You can train all you want, and still won't feel what you feel when you do all this.  Never.

Its also not just about your privates - when it goes off, it will likely blow an artery and its all over.  Its up to you how you carry, but this all needs to be considered.

[s0nspark]

Folks:  Unless you have shot a man a couple of times, you don't have a clue how much stress you will feel on your first time - or even to draw on a human.  Just keep all this in mind.  You can train all you want, and still won't feel what you feel when you do all this.  Never.

Its also not just about your privates - when it goes off, it will likely blow an artery and its all over.  Its up to you how you carry, but this all needs to be considered.

AIWB talk really can push buttons ;-)

The fact is, carrying a gun in any manner is inherently dangerous. Mishandling a gun is extremely dangerous. And as they say, complacency can kill.

With the right mindset, training and equipment, AIWB can be a perfectly safe method of carry.

It certainly isn't for everyone, though.

[s0nspark]

Back on topic... here are a couple of my posts regarding how my P-07 is set up and what carry gear I use.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=91149.msg699682#msg699682

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84782.msg701773#msg701773

I've fitted mine with the Primary Machine Stealth Comp since I do not yet have a suppressor. (Great comp, BTW!)

I do hope to get a SilercerCo Omega 9K sometime next year, though, and then I'll leave one of mine set up for HD with the can.

[briang2ad]

Sorry:  Its just when I read people saying that when you reholster it won't be under stress I get really 'stressed'.  My son is a cop and has been for a few years.  He's been through two academies, one very tough.  I've watched him handle firearms for 10 years.  I MIGHT trust he's fine with AIWB. 

Train hard - yes.  It won't replicate drawing on a human target. Just something to keep in mind reference the OP.

BTW - I don't know the training or background of anyone on here, so this is NOT meant to label anyone or condemn their choice.  However, AIWB seems to be very popular these days, and I don't think many people have thought through it completely.  Also BTW, my son has considered it, but considers the risks too high.  Again, he's about the best 'gunhandler' I know.