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Offline boss281

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Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« on: January 21, 2018, 12:07:37 PM »
After leaving retirement for a part time job at a gun store, I needed an OWB carry pistol, and some testing during range rentals lead me to the P-01.  It fits my hand well, exhibited slightly more but manageable recoil compared to my SP-01 tactical, and was a tack driver at 10, which is the expected operational usage at work/home for HD.

I bought one new in the box.  At purchase I field stripped (was well lubricated), cleaned slightly and lubed per spec.  Took it to the range today and ran 100 total rounds at 5/7/10 yards, so it is NOT broken in.  I started with Winchester 124g NATO, as my Colt PCCs and my SP-01 just love the stuff.  Perhaps I should have started with something lighter.  I couldn't believe the amount of recoil with this round.  I tried basic Winchester WinClean at 90, 124 and 147grains, and found slightly less recoil but still quite surprising and odd.

My guess, and it's just a guess, is this isn't nearly broken in and things will improve.  But, this kind of recoil may be indicative of a defective  and weak spring.  Despite being an SP-01 fan I've not looked at the aftermarket much, this P-01 needs a bit more control and certainly replacement sights (what comes on the SP-01 are fine).

Thoughts?  Thanks...
Scorpion Evo S1 Carbine and Pistol, 75BD, SP-01 Tactical CGW Pro Kit, P-01 CGW Defensive Carry Kit, P-07, P-09

Offline Kenneth

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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 12:58:24 PM »
I have a Shadow and a P01. The P01 has substantially more recoil.

I can take my USPSA loads and feel a big difference but I?m sure it has to do with the P01 having an aluminum compact frame. It?s much lighter then the SP01 or Shadow.

Also that 124 NATO ammo is some hot stuff. Get you some regular 147 HST?s and you will be happy.


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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 01:04:37 PM »
Thanks, of the 4 loads I worked with, the WinClean 147 felt the best, but accuracy has been a challenge in various firearms (two models Colt 9mm carbine, my SP-01).  I'll try a hundred rounds of the Federal.

Thanks for the response...

John
Scorpion Evo S1 Carbine and Pistol, 75BD, SP-01 Tactical CGW Pro Kit, P-01 CGW Defensive Carry Kit, P-07, P-09

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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 01:19:31 PM »
Thanks, of the 4 loads I worked with, the WinClean 147 felt the best, but accuracy has been a challenge in various firearms (two models Colt 9mm carbine, my SP-01).  I'll try a hundred rounds of the Federal.

Thanks for the response...

John

I am with Federal HST (regular) 124 and 147.
Ballistic tests are showing minimal difference between the two, but shooting 124 gives me 2 times better performance. 

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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 01:22:27 PM »
We're talking the JHP, correct?  I think I'll get both 124 and 147 and try them next Sunday.  Thanks again...
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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 01:36:53 PM »
For range ammo try the Speer 147?s if you can find them. They seem to be the cheapest 147 factory ammo.

I am a big fan of the 147 grain bullets BUT I shoot a lot suppressed so that?s what I stick with. I also load for pistol shooting sports where you have a power factor.


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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2018, 01:44:14 PM »
We're talking the JHP, correct?  I think I'll get both 124 and 147 and try them next Sunday.  Thanks again...

Negative. We are talking HST (which is MUCH better ammo).
Plus we are talking buying it in boxes like this (at this price).
50 of them cost you less than box of 20 at regular ammo stores.
Same price is for both (124 and 147). Get them both and see what you like better.
Hope this helps.
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=p9hs1g1

SORRY I made a mistake.
Here is the HST :
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=p9hst1
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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2018, 02:04:35 PM »
SORRY I made a mistake.
Here is the HST :
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=p9hst1

Wow!  That's cheap.  I ordered several boxes of 124 and 147 to try.  Thanks for that link, they beat anything else I found online...

John
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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 02:37:24 PM »
SORRY I made a mistake.
Here is the HST :
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=p9hst1

Wow!  That's cheap.  I ordered several boxes of 124 and 147 to try.  Thanks for that link, they beat anything else I found online...

John

What you just ordered is probably best self defense ammo out there. (at great price).
Now go and do some reading on HST and watch some videos on Youtube, so you have better understanding what is it.

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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 03:12:31 PM »
https://www.streichers.com/shooting/ammunition/handgun-ammo/federalcartridge?p=2

I always get my Fed HST from Streichers, usually about the lowest price for  ammo and $5 shipping.

Lighter,smaller gun will always have more felt recoil. Especially with full power defensive ammo.

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Re: Unexpected recoil with a P-01
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 06:22:19 AM »
Those are pretty good prices for the HST.  My go to LGS has them on the shelf for 24.99 so after you factor in shipping the price is about the same or only a few bucks more.  I'm lucky in that regard that he has the pricing near internet pricing.  A lot of the bigger LGS's near me charge a lot more.

I have been shooting Speer Gold Dots but the HST's are a better deal