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CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« on: January 28, 2018, 06:10:03 PM »
I have narrowed down my choice of night sights for my P-10 to CZ's XS P-10C night sights ($95) or Cajun Gun Works P-10 tritium night sights ($118.95). Is anyone running either of these sights on your P-10 and, if so, what do you think of them? CZ's sights are made by XS and CGW by Dawson and Trijicon. Thanks.
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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 06:57:06 PM »
The CGW sights are far superior IMO.

The XS sights are fast up close but generally much harder to be precise with at distances over 10 yards. Not saying you can?t make hits but you will pay a price in terms of time to do so, especially if you are talking real precision.

I found that regular sights with a hi-viz front can be equally fast up close and much faster as the distance to target increases.

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 07:19:18 PM »
The CGW sights are far superior IMO.

The XS sights are fast up close but generally much harder to be precise with at distances over 10 yards. Not saying you can?t make hits but you will pay a price in terms of time to do so, especially if you are talking real precision.

I found that regular sights with a hi-viz front can be equally fast up close and much faster as the distance to target increases.

Just my $0.02.



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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 03:59:09 PM »
I'm the production manager for XS Sights.  I'm not trying to pitch a product, just clarifying some info.

The XS product on CZ-USA's website IS NOT an express sight.  They are a conventional 3 dot sight system that was built to CZ-USA's specifications so that they would have a tritium sight option.  We built them for CZ-USA using their prints.  Here's a picture of one of the overruns that I had on my P10:



Currently, there are exactly two P10C's with actual Express Sights, and they're both using prototypes. 

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 05:23:38 PM »
I'm the production manager for XS Sights.  I'm not trying to pitch a product, just clarifying some info.

The XS product on CZ-USA's website IS NOT an express sight.  They are a conventional 3 dot sight system that was built to CZ-USA's specifications so that they would have a tritium sight option.  We built them for CZ-USA using their prints.  Here's a picture of one of the overruns that I had on my P10:



Currently, there are exactly two P10C's with actual Express Sights, and they're both using prototypes. 

Monte

I truly appreciate your comments but am not sure what you mean by it is not an express sight. Could you please explain. Thanks.
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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »
I'm the production manager for XS Sights.  I'm not trying to pitch a product, just clarifying some info.

The XS product on CZ-USA's website IS NOT an express sight.  They are a conventional 3 dot sight system that was built to CZ-USA's specifications so that they would have a tritium sight option.  We built them for CZ-USA using their prints.  Here's a picture of one of the overruns that I had on my P10:



Currently, there are exactly two P10C's with actual Express Sights, and they're both using prototypes. 

Monte

I truly appreciate your comments but am not sure what you mean by it is not an express sight. Could you please explain. Thanks.

The express sights typically have a very large front "dot" with a very shallow rear v-notch. That is what IMO makes them great up close but hard to use at distance... they are adapted from rifle sights that are designed for up close "express" use ;-)

These are standard notch/post sights. Thanks much for the info, Monte!
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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 05:50:43 PM »
I'm the production manager for XS Sights.  I'm not trying to pitch a product, just clarifying some info.

The XS product on CZ-USA's website IS NOT an express sight.  They are a conventional 3 dot sight system that was built to CZ-USA's specifications so that they would have a tritium sight option.  We built them for CZ-USA using their prints.  Here's a picture of one of the overruns that I had on my P10:



Currently, there are exactly two P10C's with actual Express Sights, and they're both using prototypes. 

Monte

I truly appreciate your comments but am not sure what you mean by it is not an express sight. Could you please explain. Thanks.

The express sights typically have a very large front "dot" with a very shallow rear v-notch. That is what IMO makes them great up close but hard to use at distance... they are adapted from rifle sights that are designed for up close "express" use ;-)

These are standard notch/post sights. Thanks much for the info, Monte!


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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 05:56:34 PM »
This is great info. Thanks for stepping in Monte. I like i-dot sights, but haven't owned a set yet. I was planning on putting those on my P10c. Is this what you are calling 'express' sights s0nspark?

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 06:05:44 PM »
This is great info. Thanks for stepping in Monte. I like i-dot sights, but haven't owned a set yet. I was planning on putting those on my P10c. Is this what you are calling 'express' sights s0nspark?

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No. I-dots are something different. Express sights have a very shallow v for a rear sight. VERY shallow. Not a notch like regular sights.

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 06:09:45 PM »
This is great info. Thanks for stepping in Monte. I like i-dot sights, but haven't owned a set yet. I was planning on putting those on my P10c. Is this what you are calling 'express' sights s0nspark?

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No. I-dots are something different. Express sights have a very shallow v for a rear sight. VERY shallow. Not a notch like regular sights.
Ok, the i-dot sights I tried on a friends gun were with a V rear sight and a small white post for the XS big dot front to sit above for the i-dot effect. I think we may be talking bout the same. I loved them, and have had it on my buy list since trying my friends out that day.

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 06:24:37 PM »
I-dots are an Ameri Glo product.  They are a normal notch and post with a tritium lamp in the front and one in the rear at the bottom of the notch.  Heine offered them for years as the Straight 8 configuration.  Our newer F8 sights are similar.  Here's a picture:



Our normal sights are an express design, as in the old African Express hunting rifles.  A very shallow "V" with a vertical white line in the back and a large white dot up front.  Here's a picture:




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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 06:31:18 PM »


I-dots are an Ameri Glo product.  They are a normal notch and post with a tritium lamp in the front and one in the rear at the bottom of the notch.  Heine offered them for years as the Straight 8 configuration.  Our newer F8 sights are similar.  Here's a picture:



Our normal sights are an express design, as in the old African Express hunting rifles.  A very shallow "V" with a vertical white line in the back and a large white dot up front.  Here's a picture:



Yep, the V with a post and big white dot up front is what my friend had. What is that one named. Something like 24 hr XS big dot sights?

And the top looks good too. Which is better in your opinion Monte?



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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 07:05:01 PM »
Thanks Guys. This is all great information for those of us who are looking to replace the stock sights on are P-10's.
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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 08:09:51 PM »
Welcome aboard to XZ Sights - I have a set of CZ P-10C sights on the way from CZ-USA right now...now to find someone to install them...

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Re: CZ's XS P-10C Night Sights vs CGW P-10 Tritium Sights
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 08:15:36 PM »
Welcome aboard to XZ Sights - I have a set of CZ P-10C sights on the way from CZ-USA right now...now to find someone to install them...

If yours go on like mine did they practically install themselves.
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