Taurus 24/7 vs. XD-40

[KingPolymer-III]

If a large portion of a gunmakers business is in concealed carry firearms who's barrell length is shorter than the state/nation allows, then they are perfectly justified in not doing business in that state,  ie. North American will no longer do business with Kalifornia., and I don't blame Taurus for not doing business with Canada.  
  The people of Kalifornia and Canada elected their marxist governments, they should not be surprised at the results.
  Also, the civilized western provinces such as Manitoba , Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia,  should form their own nation and ceceede from the liberals in the East.  These provinces have a rich heritage of firearms use and hunting, there is no reason why their citizens should be banned from having shorter barrelled concealed carry firearms.

[CanuckZ]

There are Taurus dealers in Canada selling larger revolvers and Model 92s, 100s, 945s, etc.  So they do business with Canada, but by all accounts do not honor the lifetime commitment.

www.sirmailorder.ca/show_...PHPSESSID=

The present government is elected by about 30% of the voting public through a complex electoral boundary scheme and concerted vote buying in certain regions and cities.  I never said I liked it, or voted for the crooks.

[jwc007]

My experience with Taurus Customer Service has generally been good with one exception.  I had sent my PT92 back for it's first broken locking block.  They had to cut the barrel out of the gun to get it apart.  But before they fixed it, it somehow settled into a corner of the shop and they seemed to have forgotten about it.  For 2 Months!  Called their Customer Service Dept. and the Assistant Shop Manager found it and apologized profusely.  Got it back one week later.  This was back in the early 90's and I believe that Shop Manager is gone.

Back around 1998 I sent my PT945 in for a broken firing pin. The PT945 was fixed perfectly and was back within 3 weeks.  I believe that Taurus was having some problems with MIM parts and that Firing Pin was one of them.  They have since gone to 100% X-Ray inspection of MIM parts and are of excellent quality.  I do plan to get another Taurus, a PT909B.

www.taurususa.com/product...ory=Pistol

[dvsnse]

I never really looked at the Taurus pistols, but that 945 and 909 look very cool.  Is the grip on the 909 the same size as the Beretta/Taurus 92 series or is it smaller?  Also, can you say how the 945 grip feels compared to the full size 92 series?  To me it looks like a slimer single-stack version of the full size pistol.

[KingPolymer-III]

Out of all the ones so far, the Millennium Pros are my favorite, in fact,  I like it so much that I traded in the  PT92s for two PT140 stainless versions.

[jwc007]

The frame of the PT909B is virtually the same as the PT92AR with perhaps one frame machining difference.  They both take the same magazines.

The PT945's grip is slimmer, but slightly longer, so the feel is different.  Mine has the shorter PT908 trigger installed and a Hogue Handall Grip Sleeve.




Size Comparison of EAA Witness .45 vs Taurus PT945

[KingPolymer-III]

Are these 15 or 17 capacity in 9mm?

[jwc007]

The Taurus 9mm PT909B takes the same 17 round magazine that the PT92 does, and would also work with the old 15 rounders as well.  

The .45 ACP PT945 takes an 8 round single column magazine, and there are also 10 round extended aftermarket magazines made for it. Have some of the aftermarket 10 rounders, but prefer the 8 rounders.

[KingPolymer-III]

Thanks for the clarification.

[CanuckZ]

Any comments about the Ruger KP345DPR?

www.ruger.com/Firearms/FA...8&return=Y

[KingPolymer-III]

The comments are that its a phenomenal pistol, as are all Ruger P series centerfire pistols.

[CanuckZ]

I like the new mag release.  I have shot a P85 and felt the grip somewhat smallish and the slide kind of top heavy.  But it was built like a tank.

I was thinking about this one, or a Norinco Commander.

[dvsnse]

After reading so many good things about the KP345 I stopped by Gart Sports the other night to handle one.  It would seem to be a great piece to have if you like or even don't mind a polymer grip.  I just don't care for the feel of a polymer full size pistol.  For me it's fine for a subcompact, but I need an aluminum or steel full size grip.

[KingPolymer-III]

I have heard that from many folks, ergonomics is a highly personal and subjective thing, in the end,  make sure YOU are able to shoot the gun well and its an enjoyable and accurate experience.  Thats what counts.