P-07 firing pin roll pin replacement?

[uncle_malice]

Hi all,

New to the forum. I just picked up my brand new P-07 on Thursday afternoon. I haven't put the first round through it, just a little bit of dry firing at home to get a feel for the trigger. Today, I noticed that the firing pin seemed to be staying inside of the slide and not coming back out. I tried poking at it and moving the plunger, but it seemed stuck.

So, I grabbed my punch kit and popped out the roll pin to discover that there is a crescent shaped chunk broken out of the roll pin. The firing pin came out along with a couple of little bits of shrapnel that had broken off of the roll pin. The firing pin itself looks to be in good shape, but I'm a little concerned at the roll pin breaking so quickly... however, given the short life of it, I'm guessing maybe there was a heat treating issue and it was just too brittle or something.

Is this a roll pin that I can get at Ace Hardware or similar? Or is it something that I need to specially order from CZ-USA?? Is this a known issue on the P-07? I've been super excited to get into this excellent combat gun, but parts breaking before round 1 seems odd.

Thanks for any help!

[uncle_malice]

UPDATE: found this post. The photo of his roll pin looks exactly like mine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CZFirearms/comments/5zkmk7/troubleshooting_p07/

I'm guessing dry firing on a P-07 is frowned upon? Though he claims on there that CZ tested dry firing them 30k times without issue. I certainly haven't done that. Maybe a couple hundred at most.

[s0nspark]

You need to replace the stock pin with the Cajun Gun Works one. The CGW pin is much more robust.

[uncle_malice]

The CGW kit comes with a better roll pin? Good to know. I knew about the extended firing pin. I actually have the complete pro kit or whatever it's called ($225) being delivered on Monday.

I should have no problems with dry firing after the CGW kit, then?

[cntrydawwwg]

You shouldn?t, but it?s still recommended using snap caps or as most of us prefer? an O ring. #83 IIRC. Really helps cushion the FP.

Not my pic.

[uncle_malice]

Oh nice. The O-ring idea is cool. I'll try to pick one up.

We're all squared away for the time being, at least. Ran over to Ace hardware and found a nice, heavier gauge, US-made roll pin for 47-cents. Put the slide back together and it seems to be all good.

I would have just waited until Monday when the CGW kit gets here, but I'm actually going out to the desert to shoot some steel with a friend and wanted to put the P07 through some rounds before I put the CGW kit in it. Seems good to go for the moment. I'll report back after tomorrow!

[joedirt199]

Mcmaster-carr has heavy guaged roll pins for a fraction of the cost. Can get a bag of them.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Oh nice. The O-ring idea is cool. I'll try to pick one up.

We're all squared away for the time being, at least. Ran over to Ace hardware and found a nice, heavier gauge, US-made roll pin for 47-cents. Put the slide back together and it seems to be all good.

I would have just waited until Monday when the CGW kit gets here, but I'm actually going out to the desert to shoot some steel with a friend and wanted to put the P07 through some rounds before I put the CGW kit in it. Seems good to go for the moment. I'll report back after tomorrow!

If you dry fire you MUST use the O ring or snap cap. There is no roll pin that won't fall apart in time otherwise.

[s0nspark]

Oh nice. The O-ring idea is cool. I'll try to pick one up.

We're all squared away for the time being, at least. Ran over to Ace hardware and found a nice, heavier gauge, US-made roll pin for 47-cents. Put the slide back together and it seems to be all good.

I would have just waited until Monday when the CGW kit gets here, but I'm actually going out to the desert to shoot some steel with a friend and wanted to put the P07 through some rounds before I put the CGW kit in it. Seems good to go for the moment. I'll report back after tomorrow!

If you dry fire you MUST use the O ring or snap cap. There is no roll pin that won't fall apart in time otherwise.

That is why the CGW FP retaining pin isn?t a roll pin - it is a spring pin...  ;-)

I have dry fired my Cajunized P-07s (without a snap cap or o-ring) thousands of times without issue.

Certainly no harm in using an o-ring or snap cap, of course, but I wouldn?t consider it a necessity with the CGW pin.

[Winkel]

Just DON'T forget to take the o-ring out when you're done.  If you need the gun in a defensive situation, it'll go click instead of bang.

I did this while target shooting one day and it was quite a surprise.  It also showed that I had one heck of a flinch.  It was a good lesson.

[miller_man]

BTW, just so everyone is also informed - the cajun firing pin comes with lifetime warranty - but ONLY if you use their firing pin spring pin. I found this out just recently after reading on their site.

[nevada]

Just in case you missed it, the opening on the CGW pin must be at the 12 o'clock position when installed.
I use a snap cap anyway. Your choice 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Oh nice. The O-ring idea is cool. I'll try to pick one up.

We're all squared away for the time being, at least. Ran over to Ace hardware and found a nice, heavier gauge, US-made roll pin for 47-cents. Put the slide back together and it seems to be all good.

I would have just waited until Monday when the CGW kit gets here, but I'm actually going out to the desert to shoot some steel with a friend and wanted to put the P07 through some rounds before I put the CGW kit in it. Seems good to go for the moment. I'll report back after tomorrow!

If you dry fire you MUST use the O ring or snap cap. There is no roll pin that won't fall apart in time otherwise.

That is why the CGW FP retaining pin isn?t a roll pin - it is a spring pin...  ;-)

I have dry fired my Cajunized P-07s (without a snap cap or o-ring) thousands of times without issue.

Certainly no harm in using an o-ring or snap cap, of course, but I wouldn?t consider it a necessity with the CGW pin.

I don't dry fire so I have no worries about this issue even though I do have a CGW pin in my P-07. However there is a thread here on this forum where the CGW pin failed from dry firing without protection.  So if you're gonna slam your pin dry you should probably protect it.

[Craig24680]

O-Ring is what I use and when I talked to David at CGW he recommended them for dry firing the 07/09

[Masonic John]

Silly question but how do you know what size o ring to get? I have snap caps but like the idea of the o ring. I?ve also never bought them before so this is all new to me.


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