Small carbines in pistol calibers. Good news.

[KingPolymer-III]

I'm a big fan of small pistol caliber carbines, like the High Point Carbines and the Beretta CX4s,  the Kel Tec SUB2000's etc.  mainly in 9mm, and .40SW,  but the .45ACPs are tougher to find.  The CX4 comes in one, but now there is good news from High Point.  I received an email today announcing that they will come out with a .45ACP carbine in October of this year.  Excellent news.
  I've also been pondering the idea of getting a Thompson Kahr in .45ACP.  I have alot of interest in that period of our history,  and having a Capone Tommy gun is fascinating, but I wanted to stay in the $500 range, where it is the case with the Beretta at the top end and the others in the middle.  The Beretta is around $500,  The Kel Tec around $350 and the High Points $175-$250., but the Kahr Thompson is about $900 from what I hear, but maybe worth saving up for.  Your thoughts?

[Walt-Sherrill]

H&K made an awesome carbine in .45 acp.  I think they've recently quit importing it.  I was sorely tempted a number of times, but a bit put off by the price.

The Kel-Tec is still attractive.

The negative thing about the Kel-Tec and the Hi-Point is that mere mortals don't detail strip those suckers...  Field stripping is OK, but detail strip?  Fugedabowdit.

[TY44934]

We sold a number of the High Point carbines in the store where I work part time. The Carbine is the only Hi Point product we carried & I personally do not think much of the Hi Point pistols.

However, the High Point carbines are another story. They are certainly NOT made to the standards of the H&K .45 ACP carbine, but they are made to functional standard at a reasonable price (the price of the H&K was not reasonable).

I guess a good comparison would be the AK-47. It is not a precision weapon, but for its intended role, it works exceedingly well. There is a valuable quality in that.

The Kel-Tec is also a fine carbine & we have sold a number of those, along with Kel-Tec's innovative, locked-breach .32 and .380 polymer framed pistols. I carry a P32 as a B.U.G. gun in a pocket holster.  Regards,

D.C. Johnson
www.shootersparadise.com
A friend has

[jwc007]

You should perhaps look into getting a Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine in .45 ACP, if you want a Modern .45 ACP Carbine.

If you want a WWII Thompson Look-alike Semi-Auto, you most certainly have to get a Auto-Ordnance Kahr.  

You could also look for a Mark 45 Carbine, no longer made, and becoming rare and about the same price used.  I have one and I like it! But I bought it back when prices for it were much lower than now.

Mark 45 Carbine


Fair Semi-Auto Replica of M1 Thompson with a few variations for Design Patent reasons. Uses 20 and 30 round Thompson magazines. Accurate, in spite of horrible trigger. Average velocity gains of 250 fps over standard 5 inch pistol barrel. Feeds all Bullet shapes and has NEVER jammed.

[KingPolymer-III]

Great feedback guys, thank you.  I will surely get a couple from the above list.

[CanuckZ]

Here's mine
securityarms.com/20010315...0/2126.htm

[chris-in-va]

I thoroughly enjoy my HiPoint 9mm with the red dot.  Even the stock sights are fantastic.  I bought mine at a gun show for $120 and sent it in to the factory for some 'refurbishing'.  I got back a practically new gun, two mags "for my trouble", a scope mount and all the other doodads that come with a new one.

I wasn't aware the 9mm round could be this accurate...

[mbott]

One of my first "lusts" was the small Ruger carbine in .40 caliber.  Now, one is available again with Ghost Ring sights as the PC4GR.

Temptation.  

--
Mike

[KingPolymer-III]

mbott:
  Yes, I have heard of it, but it looks too much like a 10/22 aesthetically, so I decided to pass on it in order so that the budget could support the Beretta CX4, the High Point Carbines, and the Kel Tec Sub2000 with the Glock 17 mags.  So far these are the ones that have peaked my curiousity.

[verbaltharhino]

You could also go for an Uzi.  Vector Arms sells them both in 9mm (their standard for $600) and .45 (conversion also available for 9mm).  They even make grip assemblies that accept grease gun mags that are very inexpensive (the mags, not the grip frame).

I love my 9mm Uzi, but couldn't see myself dumping that many rounds in .45 downrange.  Luckily, 9mm Wolf works the best in my gun (the only gun I'll shoot it through), so I'm good there, too.  It's such a fun little carbine, and it's much more accurate that I ever expected.

[KingPolymer-III]

Thats an excellent point Verbal.  The UZI is as much a 20th century classic as the Thompson and is certainly a household name.  I did not overlook it ,but am very dissapointed with the stigma that it carries.  Alot of uneducated gun shops here seem to think that it needs a NFA Class III addendum ,either that or they are afraid of attracting the "TEC-9" crowd, if you know what I mean. ,either way its plain stupid.
  I used to have an Intratech Scorpion in .22LR that looked very much like an UZI,but it kept jamming so I traded it a long time ago.
  Either way, the UZI is an excellent choice and is a revolutionary firearm and a historical piece to have as a collectible,  I am just dissapointed in what the anti gun fanatics have done to its name.

[CanuckZ]

My CZ toy...
securityarms.com/20010315...0/2167.htm

[KingPolymer-III]

I like your taste in toys. LOL

[verbaltharhino]

Oh, ya, not to harp on the subject, but chances are that with the Uzi, the value of your firearm would actually go up instead of down, even if you shoot it.

Nice Skorpion, too!  I wish we could have those here.  I was surprised to find out they're .32ACP.  That is almost a dead ringer for your Tec-22, King!

[KingPolymer-III]

"with the Uzi, the value of your firearm would actually go up instead of down, even if you shoot it."

  I would agree with that for sure.