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Offline JCRocks

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SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« on: March 27, 2018, 10:46:12 PM »
Hello,

New to the forum and new to the BREN. I just took ownership of two: pistol and carbine. For the pistol, I tried the KAK / CZ adapter, but the loose tolerance left much to be desired. So, I've decided to SBR.

I'm thinking of using the Silencer Shop Single Shot Trust and Form 1 service. The single shot trust uses a trust name in this format: <MODEL> <SERIAL> Trust. Since the model is CZ BREN 805 S1 + serial + Trust, the engraving can get long.

Where on the BREN receiver is the engraving most often done? Is there a required location? This will be my first SBR.

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Offline thehun

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 08:19:40 AM »
I would say it would be on the left side of the upper receiver.

Offline John A.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 08:44:54 AM »
There are 2 approved places.

On the upper receiver, or on the barrel.  ATF likes the receiver the best. 

It has to be in a visible place where it can be viewed without tools to take something off.  Other than that, most people like to make their engravings as inconspicuous as possible.

For a while, there were many people engraving underneath of the pistol grip (where AR's and AK's are concerned), but the atf didn't want to have to carry around a tool box to look at engravings to make sure they are compliant if you were ever checked, so hence the rule that it has to be visible and on the receiver or barrel now.

If you don't have a place local to you that engraves, I recommend tarheelstate firearms.  They've engraved several of my things and are fast, and inexpensive.

Congtratulations.
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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 10:23:18 AM »

If you don't have a place local to you that engraves, I recommend tarheelstate firearms.  They've engraved several of my things and are fast, and inexpensive.

Congtratulations.

Thank You very much for this information as this was going to be my next question. I feel a slight addiction coming on.
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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 12:36:02 PM »
Engrave on the large flat surface beneath the right or left front rail positions. Fully visible and on the receiver.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2018, 03:05:24 AM »
If you are using the one shot trust, the make, model, and ser number are already engraved. Just need the word "trust" and city, state.

How hard is ATF cracking down on this? Have never heard of one incident of failing to engrave.  But I recommend do it since it is required.  Noting in the CFR states it had to be all within a certain format. I use the term 'NFA TRUST"  with city and state.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 01:48:29 AM »
If you still want to run it in pistol format (live around state borders or home state doesn't allow loaded long arms in vehicles) I can highly recommend the SBT805 brace. Its one of the best braces Ive ever felt. Feels way nicer than my Maxim Defense AR brace that cost almost five times as much.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 07:27:31 PM »
If you still want to run it in pistol format (live around state borders or home state doesn't allow loaded long arms in vehicles) I can highly recommend the SBT805 brace. Its one of the best braces Ive ever felt. Feels way nicer than my Maxim Defense AR brace that cost almost five times as much.

I tried the KAK adapter kit and TAILHOOK MOD 2 but it just didn't feel right. The whole assembly had a lot of play. So I got the SBT805 and bam, it's awesome. Having second thoughts about the SBR stamp.

The brace is very similar to my SBT EVO brace.



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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2018, 07:07:39 PM »
Unbelievable - ATF cashed my check on May 2, 2018 and the stamp showed up today July 30, 2018. That's a total of 89 days to SBR my BREN.
 And I just recently purchased the SBT805 brace because I thought the wait was going to be very long.

Now for the engraving. Tarheel State Firearms was recommended.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 09:00:01 PM »
Last item I had tarheel engrave for me, they got it on Friday evening, engraved it on Saturday evening and mailed back to me Monday.

They do really good work. 

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2018, 09:49:51 PM »
Last item I had tarheel engrave for me, they got it on Friday evening, engraved it on Saturday evening and mailed back to me Monday.

They do really good work.

Taking your recommendation again, it's going out tomorrow. I think I want the engraving centered on the shelf just above the WARNING label. You can't see it looking from the side, only from the top. And since it's a single shot trust, it's just <SERIAL NUMBER> TRUST  CITY, ST.

Thanks for the recommendation.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2018, 10:34:03 PM »
If you can take a picture of your part, and then use photoshop or whatever program you want to use that will write text over the photo where and how you want it so you can show them what you want, they'll do it.  Just send the photo along with the item you're sending in and they'll get it.

I often mark my items with blue painters tape since I like my text in a specific area when it is installed.  Essentially, I time my stuff a certain way.

I had a freefloated ar15 handguard that was fluted.  (I used the tube as the suppressor body).

I did just what I recommended to show them that I wanted the text inside of the flutes and they nailed it.

My last suppressor tube is going to be an integral 22lr and is 17-1/2 inches long.

I indexed the barrel sleeve/suppressor body in relation to where the stock is going to be so they could engrave the tube similar to what most manufacturers write their info and again, they nailed it.

I could send you a couple pictures in PM, but I think you'll understand what I'm talking about.



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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
I took a picture and outlined the area I'd like the engraving. Even added the engraving in the picture so I think they'll get the idea.

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Re: SBR Question - Engraving Trust Name
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 12:32:42 PM »
Yeah, that's what I was suggesting.  Takes all the guess work out of it for them.

If they have any questions, or if they can't get into the area you want engraved, they'll contact you before they start. 

I've used a couple of engravers over the years, but they have surpassed the service and quality of the others, so that's who I use exclusively now.
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