Home Defense Pistol

[newageroman]

So... I just got a couple of o-lights on special and don't have a good HD gun with a rail. Wife is used to glocks, but I hate them for obvious reasons, but you just can't deny the reliability. Have carry pistols and competition pistols already, so this will be a HD/range gun with maybe a match or two between just to get used to handling it under pressure. I expect to get CZ biased answer, but I'm really only familiar with the 75/85 and shadows. Looking for good reliable options with the following:

• standard rail for light
• good metal triggers with no safety dingus (but not absolutely mandatory)
• Double stack 9mm ~17 rounds
• DA/SA with safety model (preferred but not absolute required)
• Around ~ $600 or so
• stock/minimal mods needed (I love tweaking guns, but looking for stock for HD)

Considering the following:

• G17/19
• Canick TP9
• CZ SP-01 and

Thx in advance!

[wagon]

Someone recently just asked this same question .. and my suggestion remains the same:   Scorpion Evo

Considering HD purpose only:

You can mount light / laser
30 rounds (or more) at your disposal
Close to your price point.

My bed side is an Uber reliable G17 with a TLR-4, 33 rounder in the grip.  I just love Glock for HD, but I will never carry a G17 :-)


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[The Guardian]

It would be a stretch for me to say ANY gun out of the box is a good HD choice......but since you asked, I'm going to throw my option into the mix.  Let me preface it by saying I've owned  every modern model CZ pistol, only exceptions are the .380 models.......for what your describing, I would go with the SP01 Phantom. Fits everything your looking for and is the closest to out of the box I would use for a HD pistol........again given the criteria you laid out.     It may seem CZ biased but I've gone through a lot of years of other manufacturers and their models.....so even taking those into account I'd still say the Phantom....nowadays they come in at the low-mid $500's

[M1A4ME]

The P01 Omega, beside the chair, has 17 rounds in it (1 in the chamber, 16 in the magazine), night sights and a PL Mini on the rail.

The P01 Omega is a 9MM, DA/SA pistol, aluminum frame and feels really good in my hand.


The P09, in the bedroom, has 21 rounds in it (1 in the chamber, 19 in the magazine), an RMR and a Streamlight TLR1 on the rail.

The P09 is a 9MM, DA/SA pistol, plastic frame, a big gun but the most accurate semi auto pistol I've ever owned or fired (and I've shot a couple Colt 1991 NM pistols).


I have other CZ's in the house (loaded).   These include another P01 Omega, a couple of CZ75 Compacts, another P09 and a P07.  Lights on some, night sights on some, RMR's or DP Pros on some.  Some in 9MM, a couple in .40 S&W.

You did say you expected the suggestions to be CZ's.

I have other brands of pistols locked up in the safe (unloaded).  This is due to a combination of lack of accuracy, reliability and/or just not fitting well in my hand and not having my confidence like the CZ pistols do.

[puddintame]

I have a phantom that checks both boxes. an outstanding pistol for both HD and range

[newageroman]

Scorpion - pass, I just got a ruger PCC
SP01 - looks great - phantom, maybe
P-01 - possibly
P-09 - looks good, but I'm not 100% on the omega trigger just yet. Also do these have metal or plastic triggers?

[DWARREN]

I would say CZ Pp-07/P-09. The P-09 has 19 + 1, so shoot a lot things a little or shoot one thing a lot!

[Vinny]

Newageroman,
"Wife is used to glocks, but I hate them for obvious reasons, but you just can't deny the reliability."

Should we assume this house gun should be accessible and comfortable for both you and your wife to use? We all know the saying: " A Happy Wife....."

But the Glocks only check off about 1/2 your boxes.

There are already some good suggestions: I love my SP-01, but it is a heavy gun. You get a lot of the same features in the Phantom or P-09. But they are large guns.

Considering ALL your requirements; I would think a P-07 with Omega trigger would hit the sweet spot and checks ALL the boxes.

Equal to if not better than Glock in terms of reliability; but more accurate with better ergonomics. You can add +2 mags (or bases) for 17+1. At a street price in low $400's; add your lights, a Talon grip wrap, and still be well below your target$.

If you leave the Omega Trigger as a decocker; the DA 1st round would eliminate you or your Wife having to think about a safety.
IE: Glock-like pick it, pull the trigger, gun goes bang!     JMO  -Vinny

[The Guardian]

Scorpion - pass, I just got a ruger PCC
SP01 - looks great - phantom, maybe
P-01 - possibly
P-09 - looks good, but I'm not 100% on the omega trigger just yet. Also do these have metal or plastic triggers?

So, you'll have to let us know what you end up going with and why  ......even if not on this list 

[Vinny]

Newageroman,
"Wife is used to glocks, but I hate them for obvious reasons, but you just can't deny the reliability."

Should we assume this house gun should be accessible and comfortable for both you and your wife to use? We all know the saying: " A Happy Wife....."

But the Glocks only check off about 1/2 your boxes.

There are already some good suggestions: I love my SP-01, but it is a heavy gun. You get a lot of the same features in the Phantom or P-09. But they are large guns.

Considering ALL your requirements; I would think a P-07 with Omega trigger would hit the sweet spot and checks ALL the boxes.

Equal to if not better than Glock in terms of reliability; but more accurate with better ergonomics. You can add +2 mags (or bases) for 17+1. At a street price in low $400's; add your lights, a Talon grip wrap, and still be well below your target$.

If you leave the Omega Trigger as a decocker; the DA 1st round would eliminate you or your Wife having to think about a safety.
IE: Glock-like pick it, pull the trigger, gun goes bang!     JMO  -Vinny

P.S.  I own Glock 17, SP-01, P-01, P-09, P-07, RAMI BD.
All above are metal triggers, except Glock.

[Hemiscorpius lepturus]

P-07 Suppressor Ready, $500

Has tritium sights, threaded barrel, 17 round mags included, SA/DA solid metal trigger, ability to switch from decocker to safety, and a real picatinny rail.

I got a Streamlight TLR-7 for my wifes gun (we both have the same, hers has the safety, mine decocker)
It works great and the gun still feels well balanced with the offset weight
Tritium for when you want to aim without giving your position away
Thread barrel for suppressor (guns in the house are LOUD) or flash hider

[Tyerone]

In general, people over think bedside pistols.  Put the one youve been carrying all day at your bed side at night along with your edc flashlight.  Same for the wife.

A full size gun with supressor will be more difficult to maneuver if you are a "in the end table drawer" kind of guy.

A dog with a mean bark will go a long way toward home invasion prevention or at least give a heads up.

Lock the doors to frustrate and turn away the drunk would be invader that meant no harm.

[Earl Keese]

Our general purpose HD gun is a P-07 Duty with mag extensions, tritium sights, Olight PL Mini, de-cocker installed. My wife shoots it well and has decided it is her gun so it was a natural choice. My only complaint is the long trigger reset but that is an easy fix, I just haven't gotten around to it. The trigger is metal.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

So... I just got a couple of o-lights on special and don't have a good HD gun with a rail. Wife is used to glocks, but I hate them for obvious reasons, but you just can't deny the reliability. Have carry pistols and competition pistols already, so this will be a HD/range gun with maybe a match or two between just to get used to handling it under pressure. I expect to get CZ biased answer, but I'm really only familiar with the 75/85 and shadows. Looking for good reliable options with the following:

• standard rail for light
• good metal triggers with no safety dingus (but not absolutely mandatory)
• Double stack 9mm ~17 rounds
• DA/SA with safety model (preferred but not absolute required)
• Around ~ $600 or so
• stock/minimal mods needed (I love tweaking guns, but looking for stock for HD)

Considering the following:

• G17/19
• Canick TP9
• CZ SP-01 and

Thx in advance!

The best gun for YOU is the one which you are comfortable with and are willing to practice and become proficient with. That gun could be any of these mentioned here or non of them. Take the time to find what fits you and your needs best.
My current house pistol is a P-07 with night sights and a few CGW upgrades. My wife doesn't shoot and has no interest in it so I only need to be concerned with what I need. My own preference is DA/SA pistols and I don't like striker fired guns in the least so the P-07 fits the role just fine.
I have a few other pistols readily accessible as well but they don't fit the parameters you listed so I'll not list them here.

[M1A4ME]

Our general purpose HD gun is a P-07 Duty with mag extensions, tritium sights, Olight PL Mini, de-cocker installed. My wife shoots it well and has decided it is her gun so it was a natural choice. My only complaint is the long trigger reset but that is an easy fix, I just haven't gotten around to it. The trigger is metal.

And you get my first chuckle of the day.  I know exactly what you mean/what happened to you.  My wife appropriated my XDM 3.8" 9MM because she shot good groups with it.  Then, when I had to buy here a CZ75 Compact in order to keep my .40 S&W P09.  The last one is I lost my CZ75 Compact to her (the original one bought for the CZ85 conversion project) because it shot better groups than the first Compact I bought her.

In the end, they get what they want.

And, I neglected to mention in my first post, that my wife keeps here CZ75 Compact with the DP Pro installed on it as her bedroom gun.