red dot sight on a compact

[hotloogy]

anyone get the P01 milled for a red dot sight ?

[tgoldie00]

The short answer is yes...the long answer is I don?t know the details but found a pic via google search that led me to a dead link in Facebook associated to the CZ Custom Shop group.  Perhaps you could inquire there....




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[Vinny]

anyone get the P01 milled for a red dot sight ?

Yes, I got my P-01 milled by Primary for a Shield RMS. Primary did a great job, the RMS fit nicely between the stock sights for BUIS lower 1/3 co-witness. However, I had difficulty getting enough elevation adjustment to zero the RMS at 10 yards and had to add a thin 1 degree UM Tactical Delrin shim and then 1/16" longer mounting screws.

If I had it to do over again; I would use a Vortex Venom (a better RDS); and the two vertical markings on back of Venom as my rear back-up 'iron'. Or, a DPpro with the optional adjustable DPP rear iron.

So, after all is said and done; I believe the P-01 is an excellent compact RDS host and carry-optic handgun, but IMHO the P-07 compact is perhaps a slightly better host due to the wider/flatter slide top surface.   YMMV  -Vinny

Here's my P-01 with the Shield RMS shimmed:

Here's my P-07 with Venom and CZ SR front tritium:

And...Here's my Urban Grey P-07 with larger but very good DPpro and optional rear iron:

[M1A4ME]

A compact with a red dot sight looks funny (as Vinny mentioned, it's a slide width to sight width thing) but it works just fine.  My wife is very happy with her CZ75 Compact (same slide as a P01 except for the model name stamped on the side) with the DP Pro on it.

[Vinny]

A compact with a red dot sight looks funny (as Vinny mentioned, it's a slide width to sight width thing) but it works just fine.  My wife is very happy with her CZ75 Compact (same slide as a P01 except for the model name stamped on the side) with the DP Pro on it.

Thanks M1A for that image.
Yes, the DPpro is an excellent optic; the #1 RDS in USPSA carry-optics competition. However a little bulky for EDC compact carry IMO. I really thought the Shield RMS was going to be the ideal set-up; and now that I've gone through all the issues with it maybe it will be; but I'm just disappointed in the Shield quality. For considerably less $ you can get the Venom (or Viper) a much better optic with Vortex's excellent lifetime warranty. Burris FF3 is almost identical btw but I chose the Venom because of the two vertical rear sight markings. I also prefer the top-loading battery of the Venom over the Viper, but some feel the Viper fits the compact better.

I forgot to mention the Trijicon RMR, probably the #1 rated for durability. However, the mounting pattern of RMR is too wide for the CZ-75's narrow slide and requires an extra mounting plate. CZ Custom has an excellent milled-in multi-optic plate (I think CGW too) that works great for the full-size (I have one with DPPro on my SP-01 and it's a superb set-up) and I assume it works on the compacts but they would know better. In any case I personally find the reticle 'window' of the RMR too small. JMO

Ohh, and there's also the SIG Romeo 1 RDS. Another good optic, have one on my 229 LEGION RX. The automatic shut-off after like 45 seconds drives me nuts though. I find it's just better to avoid the motion activation and manually turn off and on when needed. Especially in competition.

Sorry if I've thrown too much info out there; just thought I'd share my learning curve to hopefully help others. In the end; I'm convinced RDS is the way to go, especially for aging eyes! -Vinny

[hotloogy]

thanks for all the replies. I have the vortex viper. What do you guys think about a co-exist rear site with it. The smith a CGW said that a lot of guys don't put them on. They just run a suppressor front. He said it would save me $100. I guess I could always get a rear milled in front of the RDS later if I wanted. I heard it was better in front anyways.

[Vinny]

thanks for all the replies. I have the vortex viper. What do you guys think about a co-exist rear site with it. The smith a CGW said that a lot of guys don't put them on. They just run a suppressor front. He said it would save me $100. I guess I could always get a rear milled in front of the RDS later if I wanted. I heard it was better in front anyways.

Hard to answer without knowing how you'll use this?? For just range or competition, BUIS are really not necessary once you get used to presenting the dot. However for EDC, BUIS are considered by most to be essential; although it's very rare to have the dot go out it's reassuring to have those BUIS just in case. 

In any case, I would trust the advice from the knowledgeable folks at CGW. They just milled an RMR onto my RAMI BD; a very challenging project, and they did a beautiful job!


Please post an image and tell us how you like it when your Viper is mounted! -Vinny