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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ Scorpion EVO => Topic started by: Gunsmoker on February 04, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
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Folks: New Scorpion Evo S1. No 30-33 round magazines as of yet. Recommendations. Factory or aftermarket. Brands.
Thank you
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I've had great success with both the PSAs and the Magpuls. Both are 35 rnds and you can get 15 rnd extensions for the PSAs on the cheap.
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PSA.
Done.
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Pmags....35 rds for 17ish are everywhere
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Newer black CZ 30-rnd mags are very good.
The older smoked mags work fine, until a feed lip cracks.
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Normally I would say stick with the OEM CZ mags, they fit and function perfectly, but after one of mine cracked at the feed lips I'm not so sure. I did switch over to PSA mags and they have been pretty reliable and relatively inexpensive, but I'm not so happy with the fit of the PSA mags. It seems most of mine need some filing in order to make them fit, and even after that they are tight. Also, the last round open feature isn't reliable. Probably a little more fitting here and there would make them better, but I don't think all that filing and fitting should be required on a quality magazine.
I recently ordered a couple of Magpul mags and although I haven't had a chance to go to the range and try them out, so far I'm impressed. The last round open feature works every time and the fit is perfect, not too tight, not too lose. Plus they practically shoot out of the mag well when you press the mag release button.
It seems it isn't possible to get all of the features you want in one magazine. The PSA mag has metal feed lips which should help in longevity, but in my experience, they require filing/fitting to work properly. The Magpul fits perfectly, but it doesn't have the metal feed lips. Neither do AK or AR Magpul magazines and I've never had a single problem with them so I don't anticipate any problem with the Magpul for the Scorpion.
So take your pick.
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The nice thing about factory cz mags, if the feed lip cracks, cz will replace them free. Sent them a photo of 3 cracked mag (early model) I got new one in the mail.
Granted it good to see cz doing right for their customers but it doesn't do any good if hi cap mags get ban in your state before the mags break.
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The reason you need to do fitting on the PSA mags is because they are made for the PSA AK-V and not specifically for the Scorpion. They used to have a version that was specifically made for the CZ but it was discontinued. I have found that a few minutes with a palm sander on the pad at the top front of the mag and mine drop free and hold open no worries. I also like the Magpuls for the "no modifications needed" option. I have 15 or so of each, have run them hard, and had no reliability issues with either so far.
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Because of my state’s law, I need ten round mags. Any alternatives to the ones Cz sells?
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Midway is showing stock on the new black 10 rounders:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021435015
Steve
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I sanded the front pad on my PSA mags and didn't need modifications to my Magpul mags. In competition, I alternate between OEM, PSA, and Magpul. I never had any issues with LRBHO.
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I use virtually nothing but the Manticore mags which have been 100% for me. I've had no issues with the stock mags but I have more confidence in the long term durability of the steel feed lips of the Manitcores (they're very similar to a 9mm version of an L5 Lancer Warfighter IMO).
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Are there any aftermarket ten or fifteen round mags for
scorpion?
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I have a pile of PSA AK V mags. They fit and run great in my gun out of the box.
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Are there any aftermarket ten or fifteen round mags for
scorpion?
Unfortunately, no. I asked PSA if they had thought about making 15 or 20s and they said they had no plans to make anything other than the 35s.
Getting Magpul to do some might be possible, but I doubt there would be enough demand.
Steve
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No issues with the stock CZs, PSAs, MagPuls but really like the smoked PGSs for the instant round count recognition
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No issues with the stock CZs, PSAs, MagPuls but really like the smoked PGSs for the instant round count recognition
I also have a mix of different brands of magazines all have been reliable so far.
I like the Magpul ones for the extra capacity
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I’ve had my CZ Scorpion for only a couple of weeks and have had it out to the range twice. First time using both mags that came with the gun with no problems, other than that factory safety lever which is no longer on the gun, but a nice HBI AK safety lever.
Today I used both mags, but one of the mags held the bolt open on every single round. The other mag worked flawlessly. Close inspection under a good light and magnifying glass reveals no defects. Anyone have this problem with the factory mags?
EDIT: A photo of the factory mags before I shot the gun. Notice the two bolt hold open buttons are parallel to the cutout in back of the buttons. One of them now leans to the right and covers the vertical line of the cutout in back of the button. I wonder if this might be the cause of the bolt holding open on every single round?
(https://pbase.com/wingspar/image/172337608/original.jpg (Mag hold open button))
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I run the new 20 and 30 rounds factory magazines and the Magpul ones with no issues.
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Are there any aftermarket ten or fifteen round mags for
scorpion?
Why would you want aftermarket 10 rounds ones? The new black factory 10 rounds magazines (and the 20 and 30 rounds ones) work well and are priced decently.
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I’ve had my CZ Scorpion for only a couple of weeks and have had it out to the range twice. First time using both mags that came with the gun with no problems, other than that factory safety lever which is no longer on the gun, but a nice HBI AK safety lever.
Today I used both mags, but one of the mags held the bolt open on every single round. The other mag worked flawlessly. Close inspection under a good light and magnifying glass reveals no defects. Anyone have this problem with the factory mags?
EDIT: A photo of the factory mags before I shot the gun. Notice the two bolt hold open buttons are parallel to the cutout in back of the buttons. One of them now leans to the right and covers the vertical line of the cutout in back of the button. I wonder if this might be the cause of the bolt holding open on every single round?
(https://pbase.com/wingspar/image/172337608/original.jpg (Mag hold open button))
You should contact CZ USA. If needed, they will replace it for free.
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You should contact CZ USA. If needed, they will replace it for free.
I’m going to use it once more since I had no problems with either magazine the first time I had it out to the range. If I still have that problem, I'll contact CZ and have them replace it. Thanks. I was hoping someone here knew if that bolt hold open part no longer being vertical had something to do with the mag holding the bolt open on ever single round.
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Are there any aftermarket ten or fifteen round mags for
scorpion?
Why would you want aftermarket 10 rounds ones? The new black factory 10 rounds magazines (and the 20 and 30 rounds ones) work well and are priced decently.
When I posted that question about a year ago, the factory ten round mags were out of stock everywhere.
But I disagree about price. They are about $40, compared to many of the aftermarket 20-30 round mags that are half the price.
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Are there any aftermarket ten or fifteen round mags for
scorpion?
Why would you want aftermarket 10 rounds ones? The new black factory 10 rounds magazines (and the 20 and 30 rounds ones) work well and are priced decently.
When I posted that question about a year ago, the factory ten round mags were out of stock everywhere.
But I disagree about price. They are about $40, compared to many of the aftermarket 20-30 round mags that are half the price.
I didn’t realize your post was from a year ago.
Anyway, factory 30 rounds magazines can be found at around $18 -$20.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021435015
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If people are buying the ten round mags it’s because, usually, their state does not allow 30.
Which goes to my point. Why are factory ten round mags more expensive than 30 round mags.
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Less demand s they make fewer mags?
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10rd mags are much better when shooting from a rest on the bench or prone, especially when zeroing sights. I have a couple factory 10 rounders in each case, "just in case" the need arises.
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Which goes back to my original point. It would be nice, if there’s a demand for ten round mags, not just for those of us in restricted states but also for prone and bench firing, if a third party would step up and make some for around $20, which is about 1/2 of what the CZ ten rounders cost. Having to pay double just because a state has passed absurd mag capacity limitation laws is adding insult to injury.
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10rd mags are much better when shooting from a rest on the bench or prone, especially when zeroing sights. I have a couple factory 10 rounders in each case, "just in case" the need arises.
I just use the 20 rounders it came with for bench shooting. They stay out of the way enough to work well.
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10rd mags are much better when shooting from a rest on the bench or prone, especially when zeroing sights. I have a couple factory 10 rounders in each case, "just in case" the need arises.
I just use the 20 rounders it came with for bench shooting. They stay out of the way enough to work well.
Same here.
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I bought a few of these. They are CZ factory translucent 30 rounders pined to 10 rounds. Good option for restricted states. They fit standard Scorpion mag holders and are a lot easier to handle during reloads than the short stubby 10 round mags. They work exactly as a factory mag should.
https://www.calegalmags.com/1030-CZ-Scorpion-Evo-9mm-Transparent-Magazine_p_1577.html
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Actually like the 20 rounders for their light weight and handiness, but have a bunch of 30s as well.
Because of a well founded fear of aftermarket mags in general, I've stayed away from those.
Like to shoot my Scorp, but don't pound it as hard as some here.
Hate to burn the ammo.
Oddly, do have a 10 rounder for the Gen I Scorp, the .32 all steel gun.
Moon
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I think I have two of every Scorpion mag made, they all go bang every time I pull the trigger and do not cause any issues in my Scorpion. The ETS are the cheapest looking of all of them, but they still work fine. My New Frontier Armory S-9 that uses Scorpion magazines does not like the PSA mags, but works with all the others. Here is my list: CZ(10,20,30 and 30 windowed don't have the windowed 20s), PSA, MagPul, Manticore and ETS. I do not have any of the drums.
So, it is difficult to find a crappy mag... :D
Steve
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Are the mags easily found in stores like ar mags? Us Marylanders usually have to drive to pa shops or va.
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I bought mine online. I've only seen the OEM CZ mags at my local gun store. MidwayUSA runs sales from time to time on these. I bought pmags at Brownells and also bought mags from PSA.
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I have one Pmag 35 round and really like it compared to the factory mags. Would definitely like to pick up a couple more. I will need to find them in a store out of state though since i can't buy them here.
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Better buy now since , the CZ idiots changed the CZ mag design...Sheeze..
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Been running the Manticores, PSA and factory CZ mags without issue but really liking the Magpul 35 rounders for the extra rounds.