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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ SP-01 and variants => Topic started by: Evolusean on August 21, 2023, 03:23:44 AM
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https://youtu.be/tmBPh4Gjj_g?si=G7CifAD4-WEId56U
Couldn’t find a post about it.
What for? What’s the idea behind it?
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Offered as everyday carry. Aluminum frame for weight and optics ready
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Without a firing pin block I wouldn't carry it as EDC. It's too small and light to be a race gun, so I don't know what the purpose of this gun is.
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In Europe it's commonly mandatory to concealed carry semi-auto pistols with the chamber empty, so this lack of FPB may not be an issue.
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and a manufacturer's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1STRWMXpcOg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1STRWMXpcOg)
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Here's a link to the official CZ introduction of the Shadow 2 Compact.
Cool graphics and specifications.
https://shadow2.czub.cz/?utm_source=press_release&utm_medium=web_row&utm_campaign=Shadow2Compact&utm_id=Shadow2Compact
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Without a firing pin block I wouldn't carry it as EDC. It's too small and light to be a race gun, so I don't know what the purpose of this gun is.
Many people still safely carrying 1911's without fpb's. The gun does have a safety notch (half cock) on the hammer but it's up to the individual to decide their own comfort level. If it takes standard CZ compact mags and if standard CZ compact rubber grips will fit it then I may well be interested in one.
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I’m curious how this competes with the DWX compact. I might be interested in either for my IDPA games….might be
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Kinda curious about it.
Are magazines and grips interchangeable (from the full size shadow 2)?
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From the information on one of the videos I watched, the grips on the Shadow2 Compact are specifically made for the Compact and are not interchangeable with anything.
As far as the magazines, can't say for certain, but I'd be willing to bet that the full size magazines from the Shadow 2 would fit, although you might run into some problems with over insertion of the mags since they would naturally be longer and you couldn't rely on the mag to be stopped from going in too far since it doesn't contact the grip. Just speculation on my part on this.
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I'll investigate parts interchangeability further once the guns hit the shelves. If the mags and grips don't interchange then that'll be a deal breaker for me.
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So is it drop safe? Is it suitable as a edc?
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Has anyone confirmed that it doesn't have a firing pin block or are we just assuming the internals are the same as the full size S2?
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Someone previously mentioned about some EU countries having rules against concealed carry/EDC with a round in the chamber as to why an FPB might be irrelevant. There’s no such rule in the Czech Republic to begin with but that’s not even why there’s no FPB in this model.
The CZ PR folks need to get ahead of the game about why the complete design here results in a drop safe pistol from X height without the need for the FPB as in their other models with the hammer in at a minimum, the safety notch due to the weights of the gun, main spring, recoil spring, firing pin design and firing pin spring as a total package.
Had a chance to handle the Shadow 2 Compact today and it feels quite robust and solid in the hands. It’s been a while since I handled the Shadowline Compact which also uses an alloy frame but I could sense the extra weight and heavier front end (it’s longer). Very nice, crisp DA and short reset in a smooth trigger. The operation of the safety felt just like that in the Shadowline Compact and in the steel-frame P-01 and in overall respects, a much superior and refined feel compared to the other two compacts.
Attaching a photo of the discontinued Shadowline Compact for general reference and comparison.
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Has anyone confirmed that it doesn't have a firing pin block or are we just assuming the internals are the same as the full size S2?
Not full confirmation but if you watch the ANR design video closely they remove the slide and there doesn’t appear to be a traditional CZ FPB
Very underwhelmed by this release as well, My reasons:
1. carry centric gun without a FPB (mentioned lots)
2. Optics mounting system that doesn’t retain the iron sight, they should have just had it set up for the Shield RMS/Holosun K footprint in front of the irons, then people could use plates for other optics if desired..
3. Aluminum frame. why not steel? the P01 already exists why not do something different especially since railed, steel frame compacts are hard to come by.
Disappointing overall since I am a fan of the shadow 2 grip style and front and back strap checkering.
Seems they are just banking on selling these based on the shadow 2 name, which I’m sure will work well for them based on the s2’s popularity.
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I'll investigate parts interchangeability further once the guns hit the shelves. If the mags and grips don't interchange then that'll be a deal breaker for me.
grips do not interchange with anything, even with existing compacts. mags do fit like anything from 75 series
Has anyone confirmed that it doesn't have a firing pin block or are we just assuming the internals are the same as the full size S2?
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there is no FPB, as you can see
internals should be the same as regular sh2
IMHO why CZUB released this model:
Lets say P-01 production cost is $200. They sell it for $600 in USA. CZ made $400. People spending extra $600 for CGW parts and optic cut. So, from $1200 someone spent on P-01, CZ got only $400.
S2 compact production cost is probably lower, lets say $150 due less parts and simpler mechanism than decocker P-01. They sell it for $1300 and made $1150. If I were CZ I would market it as "best carry option".
Here in the EU you can't buy regular (non omega) P-01, probably because low profit per unit for CZ, and non-existent EDC market (except Czech Republic)
EDIT:
Pricing in Czech Republic
(https://abload.de/thumb/czrpricehtiny.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=czrpricehtiny.jpg)
1000 Czech Koruna = 44.78 USD
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I’m left scratching my head. People can debate the need for a FPB, but everyone has a different tolerance for risk. For me, personally, the FPB is added protection against the part of me that is human. Call it an added tragedy preventer.
In my opinion it’s lazy engineering and marketing. No need to put in any effort to engineer a P01 or PCR to allow for a nice low CO ready pistol. Instead, you take another design that is marketed for competition, that is more mechanically simple, and chop the slide and frame to compete against three other designs that you currently market. Four if you include the DWX compact.
My opinion only, but still a head scratcher.
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just saw a video where the user swapped magazines between the Shadow 2 compact and a P01. he also said the quarter-cock position of the hammer down negates the need for a FPB.
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just saw a video where the user swapped magazines between the Shadow 2 compact and a P01. he also said the quarter-cock position of the hammer down negates the need for a FPB.
The FPB prevents the firing pin from moving under inertia should the pistol be dropped and land in a muzzle down position. Similar to the Series-80 1911’s and the mechanism in the Sig Classic pistols.
The half-cock is similar to the intercept notch on the 1911 and Sig hammers. It helps mitigate unintended hammer drops but does not prevent inertial movement of the firing pin. That is mitigated by the FP spring. A lot depends upon the mass of the firing pin and the force subjected to the pistol.
Exceptionally low probability event but so is winning the lottery.
Peace.
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We can discuss the Shadow 2 Compact all we want. Some will be enthusiastic about it and some not so much, but I for one will definitely get one when they are available.
No matter what others think about it, the Shadow 2 Compact at $1299 MSRP, IMO is a tremendous value when compared to the DW DWX Compact at $1999 MSRP, and the Shadow 2 Compact comes optic ready. I can't understand nor justify the $700 (more if you consider the optic cut) price difference between the two models. I would imagine the DW might feature a bit more hand finishing which is a plus, and it does have a DLC finish and advertises no MIM parts (not sure if the CZ has MIM parts or not) but is that worth $700 more? Other than those mentioned differences, both models are very similar in size, weight, and overall features and performance.
I just purchased a DWX Compact and have only had it to the range one time so far, so it may be a bit premature, but as much as I like it, I hate to admit that I came away a little bit underwhelmed with it. It didn't really perform any better than the Kimber KDS9C ($1499 MSRP) that I also recently acquired. No doubt that the DWX Compact is built better, with no MIM, a 1911 style trigger and DLC finish, but actual feel in the hands and performance are very, very similar. I actually shot the Kimber better than the DWX.
That's pretty much my anticipation for the Shadow 2 Compact when compared to the DWX Compact. Both will perform very similarly, but the CZ will be significantly less expensive that the DWX. Any perceived advantages of one model over the other will be like splitting hairs.
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I realize this may be apples and oranges, but I remember all the uproar when Colt added a FPB to the Series 80 1911 series of pistols. People was highly critical of it. Now CZ introduces their Shadow 2 Compact without a FPB and people have been critical of that on multiple firearm forums.
Personally, I would prefer a FPB but not having one would not be a deal breaker for me.
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I did't realize that the Shadow2 Compact had hit the shelves yet and was just goofin' around on the computer when I found one....at a price I couldn't refuse.
Before I realized it, it was in my shopping cart and I hit the "Place order" button. So, in a few days I should be receiving my new Shadow2 Compact.
I keep telling myself that the last new gun was the last, but it's not often that CZ comes out with a new pistol. Oh well, it will only hurt for a little while.
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Will have to place this on my new purchases list. Like the idea of a 4 inch barrel on an AL frame for carry. FPB is not a deal breaker for me. Having the same grip angle and trigger of my home defense pistol and occasional match gun is a big plus. Now I just wish they would make it 40.
JW
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Local shop had one in yesterday. 1299. I handled it and really like it. Felt and balanced great. Nicely finished. Trigger was very good.
Very tempting
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Bought one Tuesday.
Mags are compact mags.
Tried the oem rubber grips, they would need some massage to fit.
The front and rear checking is not like the S2, we're the S2 has a built up pad then cut. This is pretty much cut right into the frame.
Also, by doing so the back strap is flat, so when you install regular compact grips, the grips stick out in the back some.
The barrel has the same dimensions as the compact models but uses the .550 barrel dia, so barrels don't interchange.
Also uses a captive recoil spring and a steel guide rod....oh the horror.
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Another new Shadow 2 Compact owner. Just picked it up yesterday but I can already tell it's going to be great.
Just for comparison.....a Dan Wesson DW Compact.
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Am curious of your comparison/ assessment of the two after you shoot them
Another new Shadow 2 Compact owner. Just picked it up yesterday but I can already tell it's going to be great.
Just for comparison.....a Dan Wesson DW Compact.
(https://i.imgur.com/R4oEwU7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OelINoA.jpg)
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I'm planning on getting to the range by this weekend. I'll give my impressions after that.
You might be interested in this new review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJRpp4Bp9Y
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My Shadow 2 will only chamber 124 grain FMJ ammo. 124 grain JHP or 147 grain (FMJ and JHP) ammo won't fit in the chamber. Does the Shadow 2 Compact have the same limitations?
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My Shadow 2 will only chamber 124 grain FMJ ammo. 124 grain JHP or 147 grain (FMJ and JHP) ammo won't fit in the chamber.
I don't think you can make that statement based on the high probability that you simply have not tried EVERY brand of 124gr JHP on the market.
It's the bullet-to-barrel fit that determines suitability of the ammo, not the weight or style. In this situation, brand will have more to do with fit than prejudicial statements about a whole class of ammo. This is the situation with most CZ models.
Read more here: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=114236.0
If you really prefer the performance of JHP or 147gr bullets then you need to control the manufacture of the ammo yourself. IOW, consider taking up reloading as a sub-hobby. Reloading can then support and actually improve your gun's performance and safety.
Read more here: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=100352.0
All the best.
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Am curious of your comparison/ assessment of the two after you shoot them
Another new Shadow 2 Compact owner. Just picked it up yesterday but I can already tell it's going to be great.
Just for comparison.....a Dan Wesson DW Compact.
(https://i.imgur.com/R4oEwU7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OelINoA.jpg)
I finally had a chance to take the Shadow2 Compact to the range. I brought it and three other pistols for a comparison of the S2 compact, the DWX compact, a Shadow Line compact, and a Kimber KDS9C. All are very similar in size and I thought I would do a non scientific, nothing fancy, just my impressions of the four pistols. The DWX and Kimber have been to the range a couple of times, but it's been quite a while since I've shot the Shadow Line, and this was the first for the S2C.
All four really feel like high quality firearms. The DWX is probably the smoothest to handle with a silky smooth slide and fantastic trigger. The other three while all are great handling, they probably fall short just a bit of the overall smoothness.
In a ranking of triggers, again the DWX IMO has the best feeling trigger. It's hard to beat a 1911 style trigger for it's short take up, crisp break, and short reset. Both CZs have a great trigger and feel similar in feel, with a slight bit of creep, but still a crisp break and relatively short reset, but they just can't quite equal the DWX and you don't notice the creep when shooting. The older Shadow Line has a longer take up which I'm glad to see that the newer S2C has improved on. Kimber, which seems to get a lot of criticism really doesn't give up anything to the two CZs and feels very similar in trigger feel.
All four pistols feel great in the hand. Of the four I would have to say the S2C probably feel the best overall. It balances a great ergonomic fit with just enough grit in the texture to give it a good feel without being too aggressive. If I would change one thing on the S2C I would put an extended safety on the left side. The full size S2 offers an extended safety, but I'm not sure if it would fit the compact, but even if it doesn't eventually CZ will probably have one. The Shadow Line is very similar but the newer Shadow series wins by a hair. The DWX also feel wonderful in the hands, but in my impression it's a bit slippery, perhaps because its grip is slightly narrower. I've had a problem with the DWX shifting in my hands so that I apply the safety without realizing it only to have it prevent it from being fired. I've tried adjusting my grip with mixed success. Maybe it's just me, but it seems that its slimmer grip and slightly smoother grips just make it harder to control at recoil. The shape of the grip seems to lock the pistol in place, but evidently the recoil causes the pistol to shift a bit. I still need to work on my grip technique. The Kimber again doesn't give anything up. It is very comfortable to hold and the controls are exactly where they need to be, but the grip itself is a bit thicker than the others but still very comfortable.
Overall operation and shooting was flawless on all of the pistols. Honestly, you could probably pick any of the four and be happy with them. They are all 100% reliable and a joy to shoot, with acceptable recoil and muzzle rise. All four are very accurate although for this test I shot all rounds at 7 yards. Normally I would go out further, but trying to compare four pistols on one trip took more time than I expected, plus this was a get acquainted first trip for the S2C so I spent more time with it.
Again, you could choose any of the four and probably be happy with your choice. It would all boil down to which one felt the best in your hand and just your personal preference. If I had to choose just one, I would undoubtedly choose the S2C. It's just about perfect IMO. It just felt the best in my hand, had the best grip, handled the best, and for me was the most accurate. All of them were accurate, but the DW has always shot a bit to the left. I adjusted the rear sight, but it is still ever so slightly patterning to the left. The Shadow Line has it's factory setting for the sights as does the S2C. The Kimber had to have the elevation adjusted slightly but is fine now.
Again, IMO the Shadow 2 Compact would be my choice of the four, and I'm not saying that because this is a CZ forum. I honestly feel that the Shadow2 Compact is the best of the four, even though the DWX cost approximately $600 more. I got S2C for $1199 which is to me a screaming good deal, especially since the DWX cost $1800 and isn't cut for an optic. The Kimber was I think $1299 which is in line while the Shadow Line was cheaper than all of them, but we're talking about 2017 dollars, and we know everything has risen in price since then.
You just have to make a decision, and no matter which one you won't go wrong, but IMO CZ has a huge success on their hands with the Shadow 2 Compact.
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I am looking to pick one of these S2Cs up as I love everything about the S2 except that I can't CC it due to size. I live in a terrible state with mag size laws though (maximum of 10rds). I have full-size S2 mags that I know will fit in the S2C but they will most likely hang out a bit. I also have CZ 75 D PCR 10rd mags. Does anybody know if these will fit in the S2C? Somebody further up this thread said "75 compact mags" would fit. Can somebody please be extremely explicit about what mags might fit flush in this firearm as I need to find 10rd versions of them and no stores explicitly say "CZ Shadow 2 Compact" on their mags yet.
Thanks!
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…Somebody further up this thread said "75 compact mags" would fit. Can somebody please be extremely explicit about what mags might fit flush in this firearm as I need to find 10rd versions of them and no stores explicitly say "CZ Shadow 2 Compact" on their mags yet.
Thanks!
I live in a 10-round state too. All my P01 mags are identical to the two 10-round mags that came with my S2C.
Left is mag from my P01. Right from my S2C. Both say Mec-Gar.
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The new Shadow2 compact will accept magazines made for CZ 75 compacts and P-01 compacts, available in 15 round and 10 round capacities.
I just purchased some Mec-Gar CZ 75/P-01 15 round magazines (Part Number: RRMCCZCOMP10B) and they work perfectly. Since you can't legally use the 15 round version, you would have to get the 10 round equivalent (Part Number: RRMCCZCOMP10B).
Here is a link to where I purchased mine. They have great prices and service: https://deserttacticalsolutions.com/Mec-Gar-CZ-75P-01-Compact-9mm-10-Round-Magazine-Blue_p_8980.html
Or if you prefer genuine CZ mags, you can buy them from directly from CZ-USA here: https://shop.cz-usa.com/11125.html
As far as the magazines for the CZ 75 D PCR 10rd mags that you have, don't hold me to this, but I think they will work. That magazine I believe has a thin metal base plate which limits the mag capacity to only 14 rounds (for most states) but will hold 10 rounds for other states. I'm about 95% certain they will work, but someone with more knowledge will know for sure.
The Shadow 2 compact is so new that it's not in the magazine application books yet, but anything for a CZ 75/P-01 compact should fit it.
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Thank you both! Both went above and beyond in making this explicitly clear. Thanks!
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@rbuzz00 thanks for the review. Really appreciate the time and effort. Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult ;D
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The Shadow 2 Compact shoots incredibly flat. I also own the Shadow 2, SP01 Shadow and the P01 Omega. All three are exceptional guns and shoot great, but are all in their own league…so is the Shadow 2 Compact.
I’ve read on different threads of people trying to decide whether to get the S2C or the P01. IMO, they don’t even come close in comparison. The P01 is snappier than the Shadow and shoots completely different. If you’re trying to make a decision between the two, shoot them first.
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@rbuzz00 thanks for the review. Really appreciate the time and effort. Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult ;D
Glad to be of help. Why is your decision more difficult? My little comparison was supposed to make things easier if you might be trying to decide which pistol to buy.
It is a tough decision when trying to decide which one to buy. What may be the cat's meow for one person might be the worst choice for another. All I can say, if the Shadow2 compact is one model you are thinking about, watch more of the reviews on this model. I've seen several and I don't think I've heard anything negative said about it.
Of the four pistols in the same class, IMO the Shadow 2 compact is the best, even better than the DWX which costs $600 more. But you know what they say about opinions, everyone has one and many times they are not the same. But I honestly don't think you would be dissatisfied with the new CZ.
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I just snagged one of these. Won't arrive until next week.
I'll provide a comparison that some folks may be interested in once I've had a range trip or two with it. My current edc and favorite handgun of all time is the Dan Wesson ECP in 9mm: https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/ecp/
If you're not familiar with this firearm it's worth looking at if you're looking at the CZ Shadow 2 Compact. Especially if you live in a state with 10rd mag size restrictions. In fact I actually bought the ECP because of my love for the Shadow 2, CZ75 D PCR, and the 1911 style. ECP is obviously a mini-1911 chambered in 9mm but it's in similar categories I think. It is a bit pricier than the S2C ... but I wasn't able to find S2C at MSRP anywhere anyways so they're nearly the same price from my perspective.
I'll let you all know what I think.
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@rbuzz00 thanks for the review. Really appreciate the time and effort. Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult ;D
Glad to be of help. Why is your decision more difficult?
Simply because you enticed me to buy all 4 vs just the S2C and DWX :D. That said, when I’m able, I’d probably look at the S2C
Seriously, thanks again, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on these 4 guns. Congrats
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Any holsters for this guy yet?
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Simply because you enticed me to buy all 4 vs just the S2C and DWX :D. That said, when I’m able, I’d probably look at the S2C
Seriously, thanks again, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on these 4 guns. Congrats
I almost hate to do it, but to add another firearm to the list that wasn't included before, you might want to take a look at the BUL Armory SASII Tac 4.25". It's a double stack 2011 style handgun that is fantastic! Comparable to a Stacatto, but at a much more reasonable price, I can't say enough good about the BUL. IMO the BUL is a little known secret. BUL is BIG on the competition scene in Europe and also in military and police applications. Made in Israel, the Israeli know how to make fine weapons.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/online-store/SAS-II-TAC-4-25-p488719090
Sorry if this makes your decision more difficult, but it's better to have more options when trying to make a decision. Honestly, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.
Decisions, decisions.
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I almost hate to do it, but to add another firearm to the list that wasn't included before, you might want to take a look at the BUL Armory SASII Tac 4.25". It's a double stack 2011 style handgun that is fantastic! Comparable to a Stacatto, but at a much more reasonable price, I can't say enough good about the BUL. IMO the BUL is a little known secret. BUL is BIG on the competition scene in Europe and also in military and police applications. Made in Israel, the Israeli know how to make fine weapons.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/online-store/SAS-II-TAC-4-25-p488719090
Sorry if this makes your decision more difficult, but it's better to have more options when trying to make a decision. Honestly, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.
Decisions, decisions.
I’ve heard of BUL & their reputation- I’ll need to add that model to the list- thanks
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Has anyone in the US been able to purchase and take delivery on the Shadow 2 Compact yet?
It would certainly help if posters would add their location to their profiles...hint, hint!
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I picked up my Shadow 2 Compact today and I'm really impressed by it. Typical CZ build quality with very nice fit and finish. I think CZ hit a home run with their new S2C and when the weather starts getting cool this new version will be a candidate for my CC rotation. Looking forward to getting it to the range soon. photos and videos don't do justice to this new CZ. You have to hold one to see what you think. When my LGS got this one in it took me a few seconds to ge my wallet out.
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I bought one on GunBroker ... a couple hundred higher than MSRP but not $2000 USD like some of the current nonsense on there. I just picked it up from FFL today. Feels amazing, haven't been to range yet.
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Picked one up about a month ago from my LGS here in Northeast PA. 1st one they got in. I paid a little over MSP for it, but wanted it. They have only gotten 1 other in and it sold in hours. The other LGS that I use hasn't gotten any yet.
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400 rounds thru mine, it is The Gun, my go to. Shhots so sweet!!! You'll really like yours!
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I keep looking , but haven’t seen one available here yet
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There are some reputable gun dealers out there willing to sell at a price that isn't inflated. They're just hard to find.
Got mine for $1199. I've seen some on Gunbroker for over $2000. :o
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Bought mine a week after they dropped for 1150 at lgs.
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Okay I can confirm as of today that the ANR Design kydex holster fits this thing perfectly. I am usually a fan of Vedder Holsters but I tried ANR because they didn't have a mold for the S2C yet. This one is better than my Vedder holsters. I did get one with the DCC monoblock and it stays super snug for appendix carry. Very happy with this holster and this little firearm is a beast.
Dan Wesson ECP 9mm vs Shadow 2 Compact comparison inbound...
EDIT: https://www.anrkydexholsters.com/product/quick-ship-appendix-with-claw/ this is the holster ... didn't link originally as I thought it might be against forum policy.
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Has anyone else noticed that the S2C is not showing up on the CZUSA website anymore?
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Has anyone else noticed that the S2C is not showing up on the CZUSA website anymore?
I did notice it not being on the CZ USA site as well, was it ever on there? Seems odd for the new Shadow 2 Compact not to be featured on their own site. :o
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At one time the Shadow 2 Compact was shown in their banner at top of page but is no longer shown. I never saw it listed anywhere else with their available models.
Makes me wonder if it has been discontinued already.
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Clearing the headlines for the next new product release? A revamped hammer-fired, polymer frame line?
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Has anyone else noticed that the S2C is not showing up on the CZUSA website anymore?
The Accushadow 2 is no longer on the website either.
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I just searched the CZ USA website for Accushadow 2 and it says it was discontinued in 2023. When I searched Shadow 2 Compact nothing comes up. Many online retailers have the Shadow 2 Compact listed as out of stock. My LGS has a Shadow 2 Compact for sale and some online retailers are showing the Shadow 2 Compact in stock. I'm not sure what's going on.
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I just searched the CZ USA website for Accushadow 2 and it says it was discontinued in 2023. When I searched Shadow 2 Compact nothing comes up. Many online retailers have the Shadow 2 Compact listed as out of stock. My LGS has a Shadow 2 Compact for sale and some online retailers are showing the Shadow 2 Compact in stock. I'm not sure what's going on.
The website just isn't being updated very well. The S2C is a current production item.
The Accushadow was discontinued. After the S2Orange came out they are pretty close to the same product and no need to carry both. I believe the Accushadow is still available from CZ-Custom.
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I think it's safe to say that it is simply a case of where CZ is slow in updating their website. They have been known for that.
The Shadow 2 Compact is shown on CZ's home website. https://www.czub.cz/en/firearms-and-products-product/cz-shadow-2-compact
But then that's a little confusing too because the products that CZ sells in the US is sometimes different than what is sold abroad. For example, the CZ Tactical Sport Racing Green has been discontinued here in the US, but is still listed on the czub.cz website. Same thing for the TS Deep Bronze. It's still listed as being sold abroad, but I don't think it ever made it to the US.
The Tactical Sport 2 Orange is still listed on both the czub.cz website and the US website, but it's been unavailable for several months in the US.
I can't verify it, but I've heard that a lot of CZ production on certain items has been diverted to producing military offerings due to the conflicts over seas. Regardless, I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing the S2C around for quite a while.
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For anyone looking for a Shadow 2 Compact, if you have a Scheels anywhere near you, they have the S2C at a fantastic price......$1249.95. Check 'em out, they'll go fast.
https://www.scheels.com/p/cz-usa-shadow-2-optic-ready-compact-pistol/806703-91252.html?cgid=semi-automatic-pistols&irclickid=VbHznlUWyxyPT5K0ov2XexU0UkFVrmW9rT-iUg0&irgwc=1&utm_source=Skimbit%20Ltd.&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=13422
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Geez, got mine for 1150.
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For anyone looking for a Shadow 2 Compact, if you have a Scheels anywhere near you, they have the S2C at a fantastic price......$1249.95. Check 'em out, they'll go fast.
https://www.scheels.com/p/cz-usa-shadow-2-optic-ready-compact-pistol/806703-91252.html?cgid=semi-automatic-pistols&irclickid=VbHznlUWyxyPT5K0ov2XexU0UkFVrmW9rT-iUg0&irgwc=1&utm_source=Skimbit%20Ltd.&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=13422
That was a fair price, they probably did not last very long. I wonder what the actual MSRP is for the Shadow 2 Compact, can't see it on CZ USA, so I'm not sure if we will know until it shows back up on their site.
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That was a fair price, they probably did not last very long. I wonder what the actual MSRP is for the Shadow 2 Compact, can't see it on CZ USA, so I'm not sure if we will know until it shows back up on their site.
Msrp is $1,299.00
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That was a fair price, they probably did not last very long. I wonder what the actual MSRP is for the Shadow 2 Compact, can't see it on CZ USA, so I'm not sure if we will know until it shows back up on their site.
Msrp is $1,299.00
Thought I saw that msrp somewhere as well
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With the Shadow 2 Compact selling for way above its MSRP of $1299 often as high as $1800, I figure that any time you can find one for MSRP it's a good deal.
It's price will drop with time, but it doesn't appear that it will happen any time soon.
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For those with a 99021 or 99041, wondering how those shoot compared to the S2C...
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Gun is drop safe . It took me awhile of pestering with emails . Finally heard from CZ . It's perfectly drop safe hammer down or half cock and cocked and lock. There's one case that a Shadow 2 with an extended firing pin was dropped and discharged , during a match. There's guys hitting shadow 2's with OEM parts with a hammer and no kaboom . It was blown way out of proportion from 1 youtube video that naysayers latched on to .
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Drop safe test:
https://youtu.be/7V71-HetWLs?feature=shared
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Part of safe gun handling is taking the necessary care to not be dropping the gun. That said this is not an accurate test. The firing pin has mass and if dropped hard enough from high enough on the muzzle the firing pin could fly forward and fire the gun.
This is just the likely scenario with guns that don't have firing pin blocks but that would in no way hinder me from owning one. I have many 1911's that do not have series 80 fire controls and I would have no issue carrying one.
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Weapons bazaar today!
I wasn't going to go but decided to see if silencer central was there, nope.
I took my Glock 22 just incase I found something I couldn't live without. Just finishing up looking and spotted a Shadow 2 compact at one of the larger sellers with $1,199 price on it. I nolonger have the Glock. $1,014 OTD.
It fits the Craft holster for my sp-01.so I'm covered on that issue. Magazines for the 01 are a bit long but work. I'd forgotten that it was optics ready so I'll need a plate when they're back in stock, already have an extra Holosun 507C if I go that route. I wasn't looking for the Shadow when I left home but I'm happy with what I brought home.
Bill