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Offline rbuzz00

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2023, 10:59:57 AM »
Am curious of your comparison/ assessment of the two after you shoot them

Another new Shadow 2 Compact owner.  Just picked it up yesterday but I can already tell it's going to be great.

Just for comparison.....a Dan Wesson DW Compact.






I finally had a chance to take the Shadow2 Compact to the range. I brought it and three other pistols for a comparison of the S2 compact, the DWX compact, a Shadow Line compact, and a Kimber KDS9C. All are very similar in size and I thought I would do a non scientific, nothing fancy, just my impressions of the four pistols. The DWX and Kimber have been to the range a couple of times, but it's been quite a while since I've shot the Shadow Line, and this was the first for the S2C.

All four really feel like high quality firearms. The DWX is probably the smoothest to handle with a silky smooth slide and fantastic trigger. The other three while all are great handling, they probably fall short just a bit of the overall smoothness.

In a ranking of triggers, again the DWX IMO has the best feeling trigger. It's hard to beat a 1911 style trigger for it's short take up, crisp break, and short reset. Both CZs have a great trigger and feel similar in feel, with a slight bit of creep, but still a crisp break and relatively short reset, but they just can't quite equal the DWX and you don't notice the creep when shooting.  The older Shadow Line has a longer take up which I'm glad to see that the newer S2C has improved on. Kimber, which seems to get a lot of criticism really doesn't give up anything to the two CZs and feels very similar in trigger feel.

All four pistols feel great in the hand. Of the four I would have to say the S2C probably feel the best overall. It balances a great ergonomic fit with just enough grit in the texture to give it a good feel without being too aggressive. If I would change one thing on the S2C I would put an extended safety on the left side. The full size S2 offers an extended safety, but I'm not sure if it would fit the compact, but even if it doesn't eventually CZ will probably have one.    The Shadow Line is very similar but the newer Shadow series wins by a hair. The DWX also feel wonderful in the hands, but in my impression it's a bit slippery, perhaps because its grip is slightly narrower. I've had a problem with the DWX shifting in my hands so that I apply the safety without realizing it only to have it prevent it from being fired. I've tried adjusting my grip with mixed success. Maybe it's just me, but it seems that its slimmer grip and slightly smoother grips just make it harder to control at recoil. The shape of the grip seems to lock the pistol in place, but evidently the recoil causes the pistol to shift a bit. I still need to work on my grip technique. The Kimber again doesn't give anything up. It is very comfortable to hold and the controls are exactly where they need to be, but the grip itself is a bit thicker than the others but still very comfortable.

Overall operation and shooting was flawless on all of the pistols. Honestly, you could probably pick any of the four and be happy with them. They are all 100% reliable and a joy to shoot, with acceptable recoil and muzzle rise. All four are very accurate although for this test I shot all rounds at 7 yards. Normally I would go out further, but trying to compare four pistols on one trip took more time than I expected, plus this was a get acquainted first trip for the S2C so I spent more time with it.

Again, you could choose any of the four and probably be happy with your choice. It would all boil down to which one felt the best in your hand and just your personal preference. If I had to choose just one, I would undoubtedly choose the S2C. It's just about perfect IMO.  It just felt the best in my hand, had the best grip, handled the best, and for me was the most accurate. All of them were accurate, but the DW has always shot a bit to the left. I adjusted the rear sight, but it is still ever so slightly patterning to the left. The Shadow Line has it's factory setting for the sights as does the S2C.  The Kimber had to have the elevation adjusted slightly but is fine now.

Again, IMO the Shadow 2 Compact would be my choice of the four, and I'm not saying that because this is a CZ forum. I honestly feel that the Shadow2 Compact is the best of the four, even though the DWX cost approximately $600 more. I got S2C for $1199 which is to me a screaming good deal, especially since the DWX cost $1800 and isn't cut for an optic. The Kimber was I think $1299 which is in line while the Shadow Line was cheaper than all of them, but we're talking about 2017 dollars, and we know everything has risen in price since then.

You just have to make a decision, and no matter which one you won't go wrong,  but IMO CZ has a huge success on their hands with the Shadow 2 Compact. 

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2023, 11:51:10 AM »
I am looking to pick one of these S2Cs up as I love everything about the S2 except that I can't CC it due to size. I live in a terrible state with mag size laws though (maximum of 10rds). I have full-size S2 mags that I know will fit in the S2C but they will most likely hang out a bit. I also have CZ 75 D PCR 10rd mags. Does anybody know if these will fit in the S2C? Somebody further up this thread said "75 compact mags" would fit. Can somebody please be extremely explicit about what mags might fit flush in this firearm as I need to find 10rd versions of them and no stores explicitly say "CZ Shadow 2 Compact" on their mags yet.

Thanks!

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2023, 05:15:38 PM »
…Somebody further up this thread said "75 compact mags" would fit. Can somebody please be extremely explicit about what mags might fit flush in this firearm as I need to find 10rd versions of them and no stores explicitly say "CZ Shadow 2 Compact" on their mags yet.

Thanks!

I live in a 10-round state too. All my P01 mags are identical to the two 10-round mags that came with my S2C.

Left is mag from my P01. Right from my S2C. Both say Mec-Gar.





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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2023, 05:26:14 PM »
The new Shadow2 compact will accept magazines made for CZ 75 compacts and P-01 compacts, available in 15 round and 10 round capacities.

I just purchased some Mec-Gar CZ 75/P-01 15 round magazines (Part Number: RRMCCZCOMP10B) and they work perfectly. Since you can't legally use the 15 round version, you would have to get the 10 round equivalent  (Part Number: RRMCCZCOMP10B).

Here is a link to where I purchased mine. They have great prices and service:   https://deserttacticalsolutions.com/Mec-Gar-CZ-75P-01-Compact-9mm-10-Round-Magazine-Blue_p_8980.html

Or if you prefer genuine CZ mags, you can buy them from directly from CZ-USA here: https://shop.cz-usa.com/11125.html

As far as the magazines for the CZ 75 D PCR 10rd mags that you have, don't hold me to this, but I think they will work. That magazine I believe has a thin metal base plate which limits the mag capacity to only 14 rounds (for most states) but will hold 10 rounds for other states.  I'm about 95% certain they will work, but someone with more knowledge will know for sure.

The Shadow 2 compact is so new that it's not in the magazine application books yet, but anything for a CZ 75/P-01 compact should fit it. 

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2023, 07:10:13 PM »
Thank you both! Both went above and beyond in making this explicitly clear. Thanks!

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2023, 01:39:10 PM »
@rbuzz00 thanks for the review.  Really appreciate the time and effort.  Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult  ;D
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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2023, 05:23:06 PM »
The Shadow 2 Compact shoots incredibly flat. I also own the Shadow 2, SP01 Shadow and the P01 Omega. All three are exceptional guns and shoot great, but are all in their own league…so is the Shadow 2 Compact.

I’ve read on different threads of people trying to decide whether to get the S2C or the P01.  IMO, they don’t even come close in comparison.  The P01 is snappier than the Shadow and shoots completely different.  If you’re trying to make a decision between the two, shoot them first.

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2023, 07:19:57 PM »
@rbuzz00 thanks for the review.  Really appreciate the time and effort.  Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult  ;D
Glad to be of help. Why is your decision more difficult? My little comparison was supposed to make things easier if you might be trying to decide which pistol to buy.

It is a tough decision when trying to decide which one to buy. What may be the cat's meow for one person might be the worst choice for another.  All I can say, if the Shadow2 compact is one model you are thinking about, watch more of the reviews on this model. I've seen several and I don't think I've heard anything negative said about it.

Of the four pistols in the same class, IMO the Shadow 2 compact is the best, even better than the DWX which costs $600 more. But you know what they say about opinions, everyone has one and many times they are not the same. But I honestly don't think you would be dissatisfied with the new CZ.

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2023, 08:41:06 PM »
I just snagged one of these. Won't arrive until next week.

I'll provide a comparison that some folks may be interested in once I've had a range trip or two with it. My current edc and favorite handgun of all time is the Dan Wesson ECP in 9mm: https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/ecp/

If you're not familiar with this firearm it's worth looking at if you're looking at the CZ Shadow 2 Compact. Especially if you live in a state with 10rd mag size restrictions. In fact I actually bought the ECP because of my love for the Shadow 2, CZ75 D PCR, and the 1911 style. ECP is obviously a mini-1911 chambered in 9mm but it's in similar categories I think. It is a bit pricier than the S2C ... but I wasn't able to find S2C at MSRP anywhere anyways so they're nearly the same price from my perspective.

I'll let you all know what I think.

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2023, 11:11:18 AM »
@rbuzz00 thanks for the review.  Really appreciate the time and effort.  Of course it now made my decision making all that more difficult  ;D
Glad to be of help. Why is your decision more difficult?


Simply because you enticed me to buy all 4 vs just the S2C and DWX  :D. That said, when I’m able, I’d probably look at the S2C

Seriously, thanks again, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on these 4 guns.  Congrats
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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2023, 07:31:48 PM »
Any holsters for this guy yet?

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2023, 10:12:53 AM »
Simply because you enticed me to buy all 4 vs just the S2C and DWX  :D. That said, when I’m able, I’d probably look at the S2C

Seriously, thanks again, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on these 4 guns.  Congrats
I almost hate to do it, but to add another firearm to the list that wasn't included before, you might want to take a look at the BUL Armory SASII Tac 4.25".   It's a double stack 2011 style handgun that is fantastic!  Comparable to a Stacatto, but at a much more reasonable price, I can't say enough good about the BUL.  IMO the BUL is a little known secret. BUL is BIG on the competition scene in Europe and also in military and police applications. Made in Israel, the Israeli know how to make fine weapons.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/online-store/SAS-II-TAC-4-25-p488719090

Sorry if this makes your decision more difficult, but it's better to have more options when trying to make a decision. Honestly, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.

Decisions, decisions.
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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2023, 09:27:21 PM »
I almost hate to do it, but to add another firearm to the list that wasn't included before, you might want to take a look at the BUL Armory SASII Tac 4.25".   It's a double stack 2011 style handgun that is fantastic!  Comparable to a Stacatto, but at a much more reasonable price, I can't say enough good about the BUL.  IMO the BUL is a little known secret. BUL is BIG on the competition scene in Europe and also in military and police applications. Made in Israel, the Israeli know how to make fine weapons.
https://www.usa.bularmory.com/online-store/SAS-II-TAC-4-25-p488719090

Sorry if this makes your decision more difficult, but it's better to have more options when trying to make a decision. Honestly, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.

Decisions, decisions.

I’ve heard of BUL & their reputation- I’ll need to add that model to the list- thanks
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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2023, 01:14:11 PM »
Has anyone in the US  been able to purchase and take delivery on the Shadow 2 Compact yet?

It would certainly help if posters would add their location to their profiles...hint, hint!
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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2023, 04:13:21 PM »
I picked up my Shadow 2 Compact today and I'm really impressed by it. Typical CZ build quality with very nice fit and finish. I think CZ hit a home run with their new S2C and when the weather starts getting cool this new version will be a candidate for my CC rotation. Looking forward to getting it to the range soon. photos and videos don't do justice to this new CZ. You have to hold one to see what you think. When my LGS got this one in it took me a few seconds to ge my wallet out.