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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: Rowe-75 on May 21, 2011, 04:41:19 AM
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It seems everyone's magazine question's in the P06 thread is about how to add more rounds to the pistol. Well honestly, I hate the factory mag with the magazine extension adding 3/4" to the overall height of the pistol. At 5' 10" and 160 lbs that extra length can cause printing issues when reaching, bending or stretching. Not to mention I don't like the gap between magazine and base-plate at all, that appearance takes away from the overall tight fit that our CZ's have.
My solution? I use the RAMI .40S&W extended magazine. Remove the plastic grip addition that is intended for the RAMI and you are good to go. My RAMI extended magazine seats 9 rounds instead of the listed 8 and feeds reliably. So I sacrifice 1 round to make my P06 more concealable (YMMV) and honestly, I prefer the P06 over my RAMI for the more ergonomic grip... Also, it doesn't hurt that I am more accurate with the P06 as far as follow up shots go.
This is what works for me and figured I should share it with everyone since this hasn't been addressed yet.
Time for poorly taken comparison photos!!!
(Don't mind my rusty screws, they give the pistol character!)
;D YAAAAYYYY!!!! ;D
P-06 Factory Magazine:
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2500/sam0584.jpg)
RAMI 40 S&W Extended Magazine:
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8531/sam0582o.jpg)
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Wow! Excellent timing. I was getting ready to trade off my P-06 for a HP because I don't carry the P-06 due to this magazine extension. I might as well carry my 75BD instead of my P-06 because it's grip length is about the same as the P-06 with the goofy magazine extension. I find myself carrying my P-01 because of this magazine length matter, but, I prefer BIG Bullets. Is it reliable with the RAMI magazines?
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So far so good... I have only put 100 SD rounds through it but it has been 100%. Also, drops free and locks back.
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Very clever of you to have thought that out.
And very smart of CZ to reuse their designs and adapt them to more than one pistol.
Dave
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Thanks for posting this. Please keep us informed as you continue to test it.
I do carry mine but mainly in the winter when I am wearing a coat. The goofy mag extension works for me under a sweatshirt but not so much with a T-shirt.
It seems to be the least ammo selective gun that I have as it has fed everything that I have tried in it. One reason that I keep my P-06 is that it has never had any issues with feeding, firing or ejecting.
It is also very accurate and felt recoil is low, allowing for relatively fast follow-up shots.
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The flush fit looks much better, now I really want a P-06. ;D
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I have never grasped the concept of a magazine extension on a compact pistol. Sure it gives the pinky a purchase, but it defeats the rationale for a short grip. I use flush fitting magazines on my 75
compacts.
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thanks for the info about the mag mine is on order.I take it that its not to hard to take the extension off of the rami mag
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thanks for the info about the mag mine is on order.I take it that its not to hard to take the extension off of the rami mag
It just slides right off. Your mileage may vary for reliability and what not but my RAMI mag has worked 100% to this date.
Let me know how your experience with it goes.
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hey rowe tried your mag it wont lock on my gun for some reason fits fine but wont lock it does not make the loud click like when the factory mags are used any suggestions?
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Hmm that is odd... Try removing the grips and seeing why the mag release won't lock into the magazine. You may have to open the mag release locking hole on the actual magazine body, with a dremel or something... That's the only thing I could think of but mine locks in fine.
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alright I will try doing that
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Great find Rowe-75!!! Do you happen to have the CZ model/item number for this magazine so that I can find the exact magazine that you used? That would be a big help. Thanks!!
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Great find Rowe-75!!! Do you happen to have the CZ model/item number for this magazine so that I can find the exact magazine that you used? That would be a big help. Thanks!!
Also Rowe-75, where did you purchase these mags?
Thanks
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Great find Rowe-75!!! Do you happen to have the CZ model/item number for this magazine so that I can find the exact magazine that you used? That would be a big help. Thanks!!
Also Rowe-75, where did you purchase these mags?
Thanks
It is just the factory RAMI 2075 40s&w extended magazine. The one that came with my 2075. I didn't have to modify mine but sounds like you may need to open the magazine release notch a little bit, should be an easy task.
CZ-Usa has them Here (http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-11754/Mag-Cz-2075-Rami-Extended-9rd-40-Sandw.aspx)
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Thanks.
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Just a heads up, Davidsons has the factory RAMI 2075 .40 S&W extended magazines on sale right now.
I ordered one today. 8)
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I got the Rami Mag today, but it wont lock in place when I slide it in. >:(
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My Son used a dremel and took 60 thousands of an inch off the top of the slot and it locks into place now.
Hopefully it will function properly when I shoot it.
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My Son used a dremel and took 60 thousands of an inch off the top of the slot and it locks into place now.
Hopefully it will function properly when I shoot it.
So the Rami mags require grinding on them to lock into place? ???
Anyway, the funny thing for me is, when I search for the Rami extended .40 mags online to purchase one, all I keep seeing are ones being sold with a large extender on them just like the P06 mags!! I just have not seen ANY Rami extended .40 mags with a flat base like the pics shown earlier here in this thread. Thats why I was hoping to have a part or model number for them. Every one I see online shows a picture of them with a long extension at the base.
Where are the flat ones without the extended bases??? I just cannot find them for the life of me. :(
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Where are the flat ones without the extended bases??? I just cannot find them for the life of me. :(
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That's the right link, the magazine extension slides right off the mag.
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Where are the flat ones without the extended bases??? I just cannot find them for the life of me. :(
That's the right link, the magazine extension slides right off the mag.[/quote]
Yep.
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Has anyone checked to see if the Beretta base plates work on the P06 mags? Just a thought.
I'm not a fan of the extension on the mags either, but Beretta base plates for the 92 series pistols fit fine on my SP01 mags and it doesn't have that extra mass sticking out the end. Beretta states on their website to use 96 series base pads for .40 mags. It would be worth checking out since they're only $5-$7
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The P-06 looks so much better with the flush fit mag...
(http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h430/Fedor61/IMG_5615.jpg)
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Ok, I am sorry, but I dont want to see any members or visitors read this thread and waste their money. This does NOT work properly in the CZ P06!!!
REPEAT: This magazine for the Rami 2075 extended .40 9 round does NOT work.
Dont be a fool and waste your money as I did because I read this thread.
My CZ P06 is only a few months old and has only 100 rounds thru it. In fact, my earlier posts here in this thread were made at about the same week that I got my P06 brand new. So its a new gun.
So I just bought this mag straight from CZ and when inserting it up into my P06, it does not snap into place and just seems to barely fit snug once completely pushed up into the pistol. No matter how firm you push the mag up into the pistol, you can actually grab the base of the mag and pull it out by hand without even hitting the mag release. It wont just fall out, as it does seem to rest up in their decently snug, but there is no doubt that with minimal effort I can pull the mag out with my fingers without using the mag release.
Sorry folks, but this is a BAD IDEA!!!
Dont waste your money like I did. >:( >:( >:(
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Have you tried opening up the magazine release catch? Others have had to do that.
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Ok, I am sorry, but I dont want to see any members or visitors read this thread and waste their money. This does NOT work properly in the CZ P06!!!
REPEAT: This magazine for the Rami 2075 extended .40 9 round does NOT work.
Dont be a fool and waste your money as I did because I read this thread.
My CZ P06 is only a few months old and has only 100 rounds thru it. In fact, my earlier posts here in this thread were made at about the same week that I got my P06 brand new. So its a new gun.
So I just bought this mag straight from CZ and when inserting it up into my P06, it does not snap into place and just seems to barely fit snug once completely pushed up into the pistol. No matter how firm you push the mag up into the pistol, you can actually grab the base of the mag and pull it out by hand without even hitting the mag release. It wont just fall out, as it does seem to rest up in their decently snug, but there is no doubt that with minimal effort I can pull the mag out with my fingers without using the mag release.
Sorry folks, but this is a BAD IDEA!!!
Dont waste your money like I did. >:( >:( >:(
Mine locked in place without any modifications, sounds like yours needs about 10 seconds with a file to open the mag catch hole a bit. Remove the left grip and you will see where it needs filed down. If you don't want to mess with it I would gladly purchase the magazine from ya, just shoot a PM to me.
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I bought 3 of the Rami mags (CZ is having 15% off in December). I compared them to my new P-06 mags and they are completely identical except for length and magazine base. The base is slightly off shape and too tall. That is why the magazine will not lock up.
So, I took the spring out and sanded the top off the magazine base. I used a medium course sand paper and kept refitting often. I spent 5-10 minutes hand sanding them and paid particular attention to the front as the rear sands quickly down and the front seems to be the main mismatch. I knew I was finished when the magazine release clicked out like it does with the original magazine. There is still a significant amount of lip left on the base, but if it does crack in the future you can replace them through CZ or elsewhere easily. This way you are locking the magazine as deep as it should be and not modifying the actual magazine. Hope this helps anyone worried about this mod.
Now, as I said these magazines are almost exactly the same in parts. Including the spring. In my mind, I think the spring is too tight in these magazines. I am sure it will weaken over time, but I can't help but think if a longer magazine uses the same spring, these springs could be shortened and it may help my thumbs and feeding.
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Good post ccfilo! That is a much better solution than modifying the magazine catch! By removing some of the base plate, the magazine will still be compatible with the rami pistol.
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Yup, This is the proper way to do it. I have had to do this with other magazines before. If you are not sure, take the base plate off he mag and see if the magazine body will lock in place. If it does that, all you have to do is file the base plate down a little. Making the locking slot larger may cause feed problems later as you are altering how high the magazine sits inside the gun. Depending on how much metal you remove from the slot, in most cases, it will not cause any issues but why take a chance if you don't have to?
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I like it
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I have a P06 on the way from CZ Custom, so started reading the threads. I have really big hands, so may end up liking the extension! Time will tell!
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The flush fit looks much better, now I really want a P-06. ;D
Agreed. Much better looking with the RAMI mag.
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I have a P06 on the way from CZ Custom, so started reading the threads. I have really big hands, so may end up liking the extension! Time will tell!
It turned out as I thought - with the mag extension, the P-06 fits my hand, nicely. I have no problem carrying it concealed, either.
Now, what I would like to see is a mag that, rather then having a rubber piece sticking off the bottom, to fit my hand, was a bit longer and held a couple more rounds in that extended space!
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Now, what I would like to see is a mag that, rather then having a rubber piece sticking off the bottom, to fit my hand, was a bit longer and held a couple more rounds in that extended space!
I bet this would work: http://gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=97_130&products_id=594&zenid=600754410a09e016c1f0454129d229cf
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Hayfield,
What mods are you having CZ make to your P-06?
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Please let me know if wants to sell a rami extended magazine cz 11754.
Thanks,
Stan
slum5150@comcast.net
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Hayfield,
What mods are you having CZ make to your P-06?
Sorry for the late reply . . . I did not have any mods done to it . . . and I love it!
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I got the mags from midway and the rubber base pads from cz.
They work great, however getting even 8 rounds in is tough. I'm hoping
That will improve with ime. If not i may cut a loop or two from the mag
sping.
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I been using the Pro Mag mags. Not bad and hold 10rnds.
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8148/su6v.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/su6v.jpg/)
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I got the mags from midway and the rubber base pads from cz.
They work great, however getting even 8 rounds in is tough. I'm hoping
That will improve with ime. If not i may cut a loop or two from the mag
sping.
Get an UpLula mag loader and you will have no problems loading all 10 rounds in the mag.
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I bought 3 of the Rami mags (CZ is having 15% off in December). I compared them to my new P-06 mags and they are completely identical except for length and magazine base. The base is slightly off shape and too tall. That is why the magazine will not lock up.
So, I took the spring out and sanded the top off the magazine base. I used a medium course sand paper and kept refitting often. I spent 5-10 minutes hand sanding them and paid particular attention to the front as the rear sands quickly down and the front seems to be the main mismatch. I knew I was finished when the magazine release clicked out like it does with the original magazine. There is still a significant amount of lip left on the base, but if it does crack in the future you can replace them through CZ or elsewhere easily. This way you are locking the magazine as deep as it should be and not modifying the actual magazine. Hope this helps anyone worried about this mod.
Now, as I said these magazines are almost exactly the same in parts. Including the spring. In my mind, I think the spring is too tight in these magazines. I am sure it will weaken over time, but I can't help but think if a longer magazine uses the same spring, these springs could be shortened and it may help my thumbs and feeding.
Thanks ccfilo. I had some time today to work on my new magazine. Mine would not lock in either. I was able to pull the mag base and file the top down as you mentioned. I also found that more needed to be taken off the front than the back before it would lock in place. Thanks again for the instructions.
I tried it out and it would not feed properly. It would hang with the bullet about 1/2 way fed in to the chamber. I compared it to my P06 mag and found the front of the end of the feed lips were too close making it really tight. I spread them open a little in the front (spread it about 1 mm, they were about 1 cm inside width apart) and then it fed OK. I tried out about 20 rounds of 3 different defense ammos (Winchester PDX1 165g, Federal HST 165g and Speer Gold Dot 155g) and it fed them without a problem. I will try out some FMJ later but I doubt there will be any problems with it. If you have problems check the magazine feed lips and see if they are tighter or looser than a factory P06 mag.
The magazine is CZ part #11754, CZ 2075 RAMI EXTENDED 9RD .40 S&W.