The Original CZ Forum
GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: 203CT240 on March 23, 2013, 01:21:31 AM
-
So long story short my father recently bought a car from a friend. After cleaning the car thoroughly he found a Beretta 21a under the floor mats. Normally the protocol would be to give it back but the person has passed away. My dad doesn't have his permit but I do. What can I do to register this in my name? Has any one here done this before? I'm sure it varies state to state.
-
You are lucky. I have no advice for you, just wanted to tell you. I'm not completely sure that you even do have to register it however.
-
Check your state and local firearms laws. If you are fortunate enough to live in a free state, you have no obligation (and in many cases no ability) to register anything. Now on the other hand if you live in a Communist country like CA, MA, NY, CT, exc., you are "supposed" to register according to dear leaders guidelines. Hope that answers your question.
Unfortunately for the subjects of these foreign countries, failure to register firearms when told to by dear leader can result in being charged with a felony.
-
Derweibhai, CT does NOT require you to register guns. As of this moment!
-
I'm sure it varies state to state.
Make the story longer and tell us which state?????????? as Den said we can probably assume CT but.............
-
Yes.....Need to know what state. Free states do not require any sort of registration.
-
Hey guys
From his Member Name, like Rodolfo, I'd take it as his in Connecticut too 8)
-
Does your father's friend have an heir?
-
Hey guys
From his Member Name, like Rodolfo, I'd take it as his in Connecticut too 8)
Good point!!!! If in fact the OP is in Ct, then he does not need to register the gun, but IS required to get a pistol permit in order to legally own the gun.
-
I think I would have local LE run the serial number first to see if it is stolen. If that is a stolen gun, keeping it would be bad juju. If it isn't stolen, then hey, the car came with a great accessory, beats a CD player all hollow.
-
beats a CD player all hollow.
I don?t know
I think a good Changer with Bazooka Base Boomers would be nice :o
-
Does your father's friend have an heir?
My first thought.
Kids, Parents, Siblings, Nephews, Nieces, etc.
-
I think I would have local LE run the serial number first to see if it is stolen. If that is a stolen gun, keeping it would be bad juju. If it isn't stolen, then hey, the car came with a great accessory, beats a CD player all hollow.
Depending on where the OP lives, if it is stolen, it could also get the OP hooked up with a "stolen gun" charge.
Sadly, not everywhere is Mayberry.
-
Good point, unfortunately being in law enforcement myself, I can sadly say that there is no good way to check to see if the gun was stolen. We are not even supposed to run serial #'s through NCIC unless we are doing an official investigation (though this will probably change with dear leaders new policies). Heck some PD's in some of these nasty states may even arrest you if it turned out it was stolen when you went to get it checked out. Our county is in a very sad state of affairs.
-
Heck some PD's in some of these nasty states may even arrest you if it turned out it was stolen when you went to get it checked out. Our county is in a very sad state of affairs.
Easy to avoid, move to a small town where half the officers will recognize you from town hall meetings, local events, parades, etc.
That's what I do.
-
Hey guys
From his Member Name, like Rodolfo, I'd take it as his in Connecticut too 8)
Good point!!!! If in fact the OP is in Ct, then he does not need to register the gun, but IS required to get a pistol permit in order to legally own the gun.
NOT TRUE he can legally own the gun in Connecticut. He can keep the gun in his house, take it to registered compition to use, take it to formal training, or take it to the manufacture for repairs. He may NOT transport it to the range or carry it without a permit.
-
I do in fact live in CT. I live in newtown so I would not like to get caught here if indeed there is something illegal about it. I intend to swing by local PD and ask them when I have a chance for now it is at my fathers until we figure out what is best.
-
I think I would have local LE run the serial number first to see if it is stolen. If that is a stolen gun, keeping it would be bad juju.
Absolutely.
In FLA, I found a Made-in-the-USA 1" bbl 5 shot SA stainless revolver in about 4'-5' of water off the gulf coast. I thought it was a toy at first, but it had 5 shiny new 22LR cartridges in the cyl. I took it to the local police, they said checks needed to be run on it. Come back in 30 days.
I went back. It was 'clean', and they gave me the gun. "Gun" is the correct nomenclature. It had no discernible rifling in that 1" barrel. ???.
Better safe than sorry.
-
NOT TRUE he can legally own the gun in Connecticut. He can keep the gun in his house, take it to registered compition to use, take it to formal training, or take it to the manufacture for repairs. He may NOT transport it to the range or carry it without a permit.
My apologies if my understanding of Ct law was incorrect. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
Are you telling me that as a Ct resident who does not hold either of the types of pistol permits I can still own and/or purchase a handgun so long as it does not leave my house until I leave this foul state?
My understanding of Ct law is that you may not own a handgun if you do not have a pistol permit. (there are 2 levels of pistol permits).
If you believe I am incorrect, please correct me with chapter and verse.
Respectfully.....2few........
-
I do in fact live in CT. I live in newtown so I would not like to get caught here if indeed there is something illegal about it. I intend to swing by local PD and ask them when I have a chance for now it is at my fathers until we figure out what is best.
"Don't talk to police" (Don't ask police legal questions)
This can't be stressed enough.
Police can legally lie to you, and then arrest & charge you if you act upon their lies. Even if they're not outright lying to you, they may not know the laws you're asking about and will pull some wild (and wrong) theory out of their butt so as not to look clueless in front of you.
Good advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
FYI: The laws of every state in this union are easily found on the internet. Google can help you search these sites.
-
It's always a good idea to know the firearms laws of your state, or at least know where to find them.
You can look here.
Handgunlaw.us
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Or here:
Connecticut Law About Firearms Law
http://www.jud.ct.gov/lawlib/law/firearms.htm
-
I do in fact live in CT. I live in newtown so I would not like to get caught here if indeed there is something illegal about it. I intend to swing by local PD and ask them when I have a chance for now it is at my fathers until we figure out what is best.
"Don't talk to police" (Don't ask police legal questions)
This can't be stressed enough.
Police can legally lie to you, and then arrest & charge you if you act upon their lies. Even if they're not outright lying to you, they may not know the laws you're asking about and will pull some wild (and wrong) theory out of their butt so as not to look clueless in front of you.
Good advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
FYI: The laws of every state in this union are easily found on the internet. Google can help you search these sites.
Yeah, don't ask the police, get your legal information from the internet. ::) , especially that well known fount of knowledge, youtube.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/34478654.jpg)
Call the AG in your State, or a lawyer, if you don't trust the cops
-
Sounds like someone has issues with the law.
-
I do in fact live in CT. I live in newtown so I would not like to get caught here if indeed there is something illegal about it. I intend to swing by local PD and ask them when I have a chance for now it is at my fathers until we figure out what is best.
The Police Chief in Newtown CT (Chief Michael Kehoe) is no friend of gun owners. He is a politician who is on the gun control ban-wagon. He recently said in a newspaper interview; ?Ban assault weapons, restrict those magazines that have so many bullets in them, shore up any loopholes in our criminal background checks.?
You will probably get in some very BIG TROUBLE if you show up at the Newtown CT police department with a gun. You may want to call a Connecticut lawyer who knows gun laws and get some real advice instead of an open internet forum.
-
NOT TRUE he can legally own the gun in Connecticut. He can keep the gun in his house, take it to registered compition to use, take it to formal training, or take it to the manufacture for repairs. He may NOT transport it to the range or carry it without a permit.
Are you telling me that as a Ct resident who does not hold either of the types of pistol permits I can still own and/or purchase a handgun so long as it does not leave my house until I leave this foul state?
Respectfully.....2few........
A person needs a permit to legally transfer a handgun to after Oct of 1998 in CT. So, you can not buy a pistol without a permit. Sec 29-28 is the statute that covers pistols, but there are some situations that are not covered. Think of a widow that now legally owns a gun. She can sell it privately, but must get the sale (to a permit holder or dealer) approved by the DPS. Just like any other private sale. It is legal for her to posses the gun in her home, but not to take it out of the home.
-
I do in fact live in CT. I live in newtown so I would not like to get caught here if indeed there is something illegal about it. I intend to swing by local PD and ask them when I have a chance for now it is at my fathers until we figure out what is best.
"Don't talk to police" (Don't ask police legal questions)
This can't be stressed enough.
Police can legally lie to you, and then arrest & charge you if you act upon their lies. Even if they're not outright lying to you, they may not know the laws you're asking about and will pull some wild (and wrong) theory out of their butt so as not to look clueless in front of you.
Good advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
FYI: The laws of every state in this union are easily found on the internet. Google can help you search these sites.
This video is LOOONG, but I recommend everyone watch it. It is very interesting and applies to dealing with police for anything, not firearms specific.
-
Sounds like someone has issues with the law.
Actually, asking the police for legal advice is a very bad idea and that has nothing to do with "having issues with the law". Cops are not lawyers and very few of them know even 5% of the laws in their state. Asking a cop for legal advice is a very bad idea.
And yes....COPS CAN LIE TO YOU (or simply unintentionally give you false information) and YES.....they can then turn around and arrest you for doing what they suggested. Those are facts and have nothing to do with "having issues with the law".
And yes, I DO have issues with a lot of laws and no....I don't trust cops. Most of the cops I have known (including 2 brothers-in-law) were idiots and broke more laws than they enforced.
When you need legal advice, you ask a lawyer, not a cop.
-
Okay, this has gone from 'do i need to register a found gun?' to 'don't trust the cops because they deliberately lie to you and then jam you up'.
If people can't separate their own distrust of the police from a simple request by a member, this thread is done.