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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: Wasz13 on October 24, 2014, 06:03:00 AM
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I've had a SP-01 for years and I love it. I'm looking for a carry gun now and I'd really like a CZ. I personally have been looking at the PCR and guns built from the PCR. I like the lighter weight and don't need a rail for carry. My SP is a safety model though, so I kind of wonder if switching back and forth might be an issue, but I'm not over concerned about it. I fully intend to either buy something that's already tricked out or have whatever I get worked on by the pros. One other thing I have to admit. I like having something that's different. When I got my SP it was something very few people had heard of. It caught people's attention and still does. It would be a bonus to have a carry piece that was a conversation piece too.
Here I am in the den of the guys with the most awesome CZ's there are. So what do you carry and what would you suggest I look into carrying?
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I carry a Kahr CW9, because its so light and thin. I would make sure any gun you buy to carry, shoots to POA for you, and one that you can draw and fire without thinking. For me this means no holsters with thumb breaks, no mechanical means of retension, no weapons with manual safeties.
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If you want alloy like the PCR, but manual safety try finding a P-02. They have safety or decocker and the omega trigger but hard to find. CZC had a couple in stock a few weeks back, but not sure if they still have one.
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The PCR or 75D Compact as it is known as well would be an excellent choice for a carry gun. The gun uses the Decocker rather than a manual safety. Once you understand how it works and how safe the gun is to carry decocked I would suggest you will have little desire to seek out a gun with a manual safety for your intended purpose. The gun shoots like a laser, is well made with CZ's well deserved reputation for reliability, lighter than a steel framed gun and has excellent ergonomics. Not much not to like. Some replace the trigger with the smoother 85 Combat trigger. I have not simply because I don;t shoot the gun a lot at anyone time and I appreciate the serrated trigger. I can understand those who like to spend time try firing their guns. The trigger would prove abrasive over time I would think.
Let us know what you decide.
Take Care
Bob
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For the ease of having all of my guns the same I sold my PCR and P-01 and purchased a Canick so it is alloy frame compact but has a safety. Even uses my CZ mags.
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For the ease of having all of my guns the same I sold my PCR and P-01 and purchased a Canick so it is alloy frame compact but has a safety. Even uses my CZ mags.
Should have bought one of these 8) Only took me 8 years to find one!
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My main carry pistol is the RAMI for the South Florida hot and humid days.
I do switch off with my PCR, P-01 & P-01, and carry these three more when I am in the WNC Mountains. I also open carry one of my S&W revolvers there too.
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For the ease of having all of my guns the same I sold my PCR and P-01 and purchased a Canick so it is alloy frame compact but has a safety. Even uses my CZ mags.
Same here. I currently own a stainless 75B, a 75 Compact and a Canik C100. All three have a safety, rather than a decocker. I like that they all function the same.
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One of the nice thing about safety models is the having the option to carry in any of three modes.
I like simple. Pull the pistol and pull the trigger, so DA or half cock works great. Those preferring cocked and locked can do that too.
A win-win pistol.
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For the ease of having all of my guns the same I sold my PCR and P-01 and purchased a Canick so it is alloy frame compact but has a safety. Even uses my CZ mags.
Same here. I currently own a stainless 75B, a 75 Compact and a Canik C100. All three have a safety, rather than a decocker. I like that they all function the same.
Go with the PCR! Designed for CCW and it just gets better with upgrades.
Don't worry about operation. You'll have so much fun shooting it the training/muscle memory will set in quickly. I can't image limiting myself to one style of operating system; goodbye 1911s, so long Glock (wouldn't really miss it much), sorry Shield we only just got to know each other, SAO 97 you're great it's not you it's me, Blackhawk we traveled many a trail together but you got to go, so long 75B you were my first CZ but my Phantom, PCR, & 40P are just better then you I read it on the internet, I have to stop - getting teary eye just thinking about it. :'( :'(
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I carry a revolver in the wood occasionally. So the idea of point and pull isn't exactly foreign. I'm definitely not going to o get bent over it.
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I was checking out a P-01 at a LGS the other day. Very nice and with some upgraded sights, grips, and springs I'm sure it'd get even better. The only downside that has me pausing on getting one is the width of the frame for IWB carry. Its pretty chunky and felt like a G19 or way fatter than a BHP or 4" 1911 which are my normal choices for carry guns.
I need to seek out a PCR or the 75B Compact to see what those feel like. I'm on the fence with a decocker. Manual safety wouldn't bother me.
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I don't think you would have any worries with the frame width on the P-01, as it rotates with a P-07 and Steyr carried IWB in a leather holster. The only gripe that I have with my P-01 are the stock rubber grips; my shirt catches on them and the palm swell increases the thickness just a little bit more than I like.
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I love that Palm swell. It is the grip of the P-07 that catches on my skin. Now I wear a shirt tucked in and one over the concealed guns.
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I went with a PCR built for me by CGW. The gun is CGW's current cover photo on their Facebook page. David supplied the base gun and I had him put the "Pro" package in the gun, sent him a 10-8 rear sight that he milled into the slide and requested that he send the frame to my local smith, Bunker Arms, to Cerakote the frame in "Brushed Aluminum." I also had VZ Frag grips installed. Pistol runs great and is very accurate.
All my other CZs have the dual Shadow safeties and I mainly shoot 1911s so like the "cocked and locked" feature of those guns. However, it didn't take long to become accustomed to the decocker and taking the fist shot from DA mode where the trigger pull is only about 7.5# and the SA is about 3.5#.
This is my third CZ to be "Cajunized" and I like them all, but the PCR is one of my favorites.
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Sigh, if I could just have a P-01 converted to DAO with David's trigger magic, and with Meprolights up top.....
Hey, I can dream!
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CGW can do pretty much anything you request......it only takes time and $$$ :)
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Cyanide, wait till your DOA Cougar with the rotating barrel comes in. I had the 9mm DA/SA which was fun to shot and the rotating barrel has a lot to do with the non existant recoil.
The only reason I sold mine was to continue my love affair with CZ. I have never looked back, just looked forward and purchased more CZs.
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Cyanide, wait till your DOA Cougar with the rotating barrel comes in. I had the 9mm DA/SA which was fun to shot and the rotating barrel has a lot to do with the non existant recoil.
Don't forget, I had a regular DA/SA Cougar many, many moons ago and loved it (just like the rotating barrel Grand Power P1 Mk7). Hey, I finally did that write-up you'd been waiting on! Lol
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I went with a PCR built for me by CGW. The gun is CGW's current cover photo on their Facebook page. David supplied the base gun and I had him put the "Pro" package in the gun, sent him a 10-8 rear sight that he milled into the slide and requested that he send the frame to my local smith, Bunker Arms, to Cerakote the frame in "Brushed Aluminum." I also had VZ Frag grips installed. Pistol runs great and is very accurate.
All my other CZs have the dual Shadow safeties and I mainly shoot 1911s so like the "cocked and locked" feature of those guns. However, it didn't take long to become accustomed to the decocker and taking the fist shot from DA mode where the trigger pull is only about 7.5# and the SA is about 3.5#.
This is my third CZ to be "Cajunized" and I like them all, but the PCR is one of my favorites.
That sounds like almost exactly what I'd like to do. Something like that would be awesome.
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I finally got a P01. I got it fully Cajunized, as always. I like it very much, nice smooth shooter. Now my buddy wants it. He is one of those who prefers a lighter carry. He has a fully upgraded Compact he wants to trade me. Since the P01 will never supplant my Compact for carry, and it has a decocker (yuk), I suppose I will go ahead and trade him. If I get his I will have three Compacts, all fully upgraded. I suppose I can always get another P01 down the road if I really want one.
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Wasz13.......pretty sure David would remember what he did on my PCR and, I think he has them in stock. You would not be disappointed.
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Wasz13.......pretty sure David would remember what he did on my PCR and, I think he has them in stock. You would not be disappointed.
Definitely noted sir.
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I don't get this angst about decocker vs safety.
If you carry your CZ with the hammer "down", it makes no difference how it got there when it comes time to shoot.
Decocking is an administrative action, completely apart from using the pistol in anger.
If you're using your SP-01 as a DA/SA pistol, then why would there be an issue with carrying a PCR then?
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I don't get this angst about decocker vs safety.
If you carry your CZ with the hammer "down", it makes no difference how it got there when it comes time to shoot.
Decocking is an administrative action, completely apart from using the pistol in anger.
If you're using your SP-01 as a DA/SA pistol, then why would there be an issue with carrying a PCR then?
This is true. Unless you like carrying cocked & locked. But that is a small minority, I have found. Most CZ owners seem to prefer a first shot DA. So, having a gadget of any kind is irrelevant.