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GENERAL => Ammunition, questions, and handloading techniques => Topic started by: Wobbly on November 18, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
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According to the owner of Rocky Mountain Reloading, who posts regularly on another popular forum, the RMR plated bullets have been a great success. So much so that more models and calibers will be introduced shortly. He said...
Okay, sometime next month we will be getting 147 grain 9mm and 124 grain flat point 9mm.
Right now their 124grn RN for 9mm sells for $81/1000 making it the best bullet buy in my opinion. Buyer reports say it's one of the best shooting bullets out there.
Check It Out Here (http://shop.rmrbullets.com/9mm-124-Grain-RMR-Thickly-Plated-Round-Nose-1000-Count-9mm-124-RMR-RNTP-1000-Ct.htm)
If anyone sees the new bullets, then please post it here.
;)
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I've bought some of their 'seconds' before, and they were fine.
I've always assumed their bullets are really produced by Xtremes, and I see they(RMR) now have .223 - can anyone confirm or deny the actual manufacturer of 'RMR' branded bullets>
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They report that the lead core of their plated bullets is harder than other brands. Their bullets also look radically different from other brands of plated bullets. I can't imagine investing that much money in space and equipment to make bullets right now, but apparently they have. I don't think these are made for them either. These are not copy-cat designs. I think that wanting to be in the business, and not having a steady and reliable source pushed them.
They still intend to sell pulls and blems from other manufacturers. But these are not from someone else, at least anyone I can ID. Their RN are really stumpy giving which gives more rifling contact area.
;)
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I remember awhile back, one of the members here had sent out packs of 100 to some of us for testing. I can't remember who that was. That made me switch from plain lead to plated. I had found that the xtreme was cheaper at the time and had also heard the rumor that they were the same bullet so I have been shooting them. I think at $81 per thousand, that puts the rmr cheaper than the extremes at the moment. I'll have to by some for a comparison now.
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Any idea of their shipping prices? Do they use flat rate shipping? And if so, what do they charge of 1K of 124 gr bullets?
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They ship free with the option of very reasonably priced shipping insurance.
Just had to partially enter an order to find out.
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No shipping - less you want a t-shirt or some type of insurance.
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I meant to pick up a thousand & hit the wrong box. Got the Berry's instead.
Wobbly
This time the bag came unmarked. I dropped them an e-mail saying it was a good idea to lable the bags.
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I remember awhile back, one of the members here had sent out packs of 100 to some of us for testing. I can't remember who that was. That made me switch from plain lead to plated. I had found that the xtreme was cheaper at the time and had also heard the rumor that they were the same bullet so I have been shooting them. I think at $81 per thousand, that puts the rmr cheaper than the extremes at the moment. I'll have to by some for a comparison now.
That was me. I'm glad to hear they made a great impression on you. Those bullets, at that time, were made for RMR by Power Bond. But PB has since closed down their facility in McCammon, Idaho and moved everything to Meridian, Idaho http://www.highbornoutdoors.com/HBO_Categories/HBO_Categories_01/HBO_PowerBond/HBO_PowerBond_01.html. These RMR bullets are made by RMR up near the panhandle in Lewiston. They've published on their site the plating is "as thick or thicker" than others on the market they've dealt with and that the hardness of the core is at 11-12 BHN. So they should be some good plated bullets. I'm going to try some.
I need to let everyone know that RMR sent me 250 extra rounds to replace only12 that I was shorted. There could have been a number of reasons for the shortage, and I thought they should know about it in case they needed to make some corrections somewhere. But the important thing is that RMR went the extra mile to keep a customer happy. They're great people to deal with.
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My experience with Rocky Mountain reloading was priceless. A knowledgeable ethical first class business IMHO.
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The ONLY issue I've ever had was that when buying "pulls" or "blems" from Rocky Mtn that they may not identify the manufacturer (and some of that could be contractual from their supplier). So if you developed a great load and wanted more bullets you couldn't get them, once their supply was sold out. Therefore, I had to do 'lifetime buys' if I thought things might work out.
I've never had issues with their business practices, bullet pricing, or delivery fees. And now that they make their own bullets, the availability issue is moot.
;)
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I just ordered 3000 124gr.
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I just ordered 3000 124gr.
Are you bragging or complaining ? O0
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I just ordered 3000 124gr.
Are you bragging or complaining ? O0
Bragging
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The ONLY issue I've ever had was that when buying "pulls" or "blems" from Rocky Mtn that they may not identify the manufacturer (and some of that could be contractual from their supplier). So if you developed a great load and wanted more bullets you couldn't get them, once their supply was sold out. Therefore, I had to do 'lifetime buys' if I thought things might work out.
I've never had issues with their business practices, bullet pricing, or delivery fees. And now that they make their own bullets, the availability issue is mute.
;)
A gift for the normally erudite Wobbly: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/moot-versus-mute?page=all
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On bullets, should I assume my purchased 'RMR seconds' are the same bullets as they now 'manufacture,' or is it possible they are/were Xtremes? They sure seemed to have the same profile and Max OAL as Xtremes, but... ???
To be clear, I've had good service from RMR, probably faster from order to receiving them than direct from Xtreme, just like to know for sure who is making what. I recently picked up some 'unknown brand' 55gr FMJBT from Roze (retail for Zero bullets) that have had less than stellar performance so far..
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A gift for the normally erudite Wobbly: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/moot-versus-mute?page=all
;)
You got me. When I typed it my head went sideways for a moment knowing something was wrong with the sentence, but I couldn't see it. I was looking for a missing comma or poor subject-verb agreement. Having been raised in the South, I got more ways to screw up a sentence than RMR has bullets.
Everyone knows that a 'mute' is something you stick in the mouth of a trumpet or a mother-in-law. ;D
I gotta stop sipping homebrew while I write. ::)
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RMR has a thanksgiving 'minor' coupon, good for 5% off, code: thanks
I saw some Fed. Fusion pulls elsewhere with a 20% off holiday sale ( https://www.americanreloading.com/en/ ) , and they also have WC844, and other misc interesting stuff, but decided RMR is within a few $, and had a few projectiles I'd like to try, so picked up:
1K 62gr .224 Federal Fusion pulled bullets
250 62gr soft point Trophy Bonded Bear
500 55gr HPBT Match pulled (any clue whose these are??)
500 'RMR' 55gr FMJBT
I don't need any more 'plinking' bullets that are less accurate then Hornady bulk FMJBT or SPs, but will see how they all compare, and I'm very curious to confirm they (RMR 55gr) are in fact not a match for the Xtreme, Roze Dist unknown bullets, etc. that I have on hand.
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I received my 124's yesterday. They are definitely not the same as the xtreme. They measure .008" shorter and the diameter is .356 whereas the xtreme measures .355. I'm going to load some today and test them over the chrono. Weight was between 123.8gr and 124.3gr in the handful that I weighed this morning.
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Thanks, Brad.
I got my order from them as well (very fast, am usually waiting ~2 weeks w/Xtreme), but it's all .224 bullets - some Fusion 62r pulls, some Trophy Bear Claw pulls, some 55gr HPBT Match (no idea whose these are), and I decided to give 'their' .223 55gr FMJBT a try before writing off anything besides Hornady's for bulk 55grs.
I have had less than stellar accuracy across Xtreme 55gr FMJBT, random unknown 55gr I got from Roze distributing, and a handful of others, although Winchester 55gr FMJ was fairly consistent and perhaps 1/2 MOA off vs the Hornady FMJ or SPs..will see.
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6FAF7maIbmZ8jniqYnwj26vt1UlddRWsYgRaLNiaDmo=w494-h268-p-no)
Got the order of Rocky Mtn bullets this weekend. The RMR 124gr RN measures .356 dia x .580 long. Weight runs between 124.2 to 124.8 grains.
The nose does look slightly stubbier than the Berry, however the length is the same as the Berry 124gr RN at 0.580". The RMR finish is slightly less polished than their Berry counterparts. I received 4 different calibers in my shipment and RMR bullets seem to have a trademark ring on their base which is not crisp in appearance. The dimpling on this ring is a lot more pronounced on their 40 cal bullets.
My son has borrowed my CZ so I can't take a reading on the barrel. All-in-all it looks good. Can't wait to load some of these up.
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Finally got my SP-01 back from my son tonight and took the opportunity to do a "push test" with these RMR plated bullets. The length turned out to be 1.158 to 1.164". Long time followers of this forum will know I was completely devastated at being forced to use 1.140" as the Max OAL. ::)
I've loaded up 50 test rounds for testing. We'll see.
BTW... the loan of the gun to my son for an outing of friends resulted in another sale of an SP-01. Same ammo, the groups from the SP-01 were half the size of the one from the owner's Springfield 1911 !! He went right home and ordered it !
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