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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: geezer2 on January 18, 2016, 04:02:28 PM
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Just ordered one of these at a very good price and verified they had them on hand. Spoke with Cody and he said they have plenty on hand. I believe the Sars B6P mags will interchange.
http://www.cdnnsports.com/eaa-sar-k2p-9mm.html#.Vp1R2DasIqw
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Will it take the small frame Witness magazines and can the front sight be removed?
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I can only tell you that the mecgar CZ mags work and that I'm very fond of my K2P. I probably shoot it more than my CZ85 Combat. The SAR is my home defense gun because its dead nuts reliable and has a great trigger. If I lost this gun, I would replace it with the exact same model. I congratulate you on your purchase. They are one hell of a deal.
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I am getting one this week. I love how it fits in my hands and the balance is great. Now to find a good place to get the Mec-Gar CZ75 magazines
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I've had a couple of the K2P's and love them. I have a B6P compact as well. Also have just picked up a K2 45 and it's a steel framed piece, excellent as well.
To get back on topic, the K2P is great in that it's a smooth shooter, great tolerances and nice high grip placement allows excellent control.
The difference between B6P and K2P is not tremendous - but as a user you may care like I do (being left handed).
- The K2P has ambi safety where B6P doesn't.
- The K2P also has a built in rail, and B6P doesn't.
- The K2P has serrations on the slide at both front and back of slide. While I only use the back ones, I've yet to find a downside to more grip on a slide, especially when the design is slightly lower profile from slide being inside the frame vs outside.
All this said, both K2P and B6P are nice shooters that feel really great in the hand. Currently I've seen K2P through a couple retail blow out sites under $300, though I've also seen distributors raise cost on them almost $50 in the past 6 months, so anywhere around $300 is a good deal it seems.
Trigger feels nice, gun is reliable and you can use Outbags holster for CZ75b or find a similar Sig model that will accommodate.
Extra mags - either buy factory EAA mags for CZ75B or you can buy the MecGar 17rd mags that work well, aside from a couple I had which were a smidge tight when pressed all the way in - didn't click affirmatively. I read somewhere that a small filing of the top of latch hole on mag worked well, tried it and yep, just that little relief was all it took.
As far as Witness mags, they're almost exactly the same, but NOT CLOSE ENOUGH. They're too thick by maybe a 1/16th of an inch and while you can stressfully press one in the handle, I hope you lubed it to get it back out :) Too tight and don't drop free like the CZ75B or MecGar mags do. They're consstently available at about $25 ea if you search for them.
Also to note, Sarsmilaz is the only licensed clone of CZ - so they're doing a nice job making their pieces instead of being a second rate copycat. That and the fact that they're the 2nd largest producer of sidearms for NATO tells you they're not novices at this. Glad to have these coming more available.
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Congratulations on your new SAR K2P! I've had one for quite awhile now and often carry it or use it as my "House Gun".
Mostly, I use the Mec-Gar Cz75B AFC 17 round Magazines with it.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SAR_K2P_Mag.jpg)
Sarsilmaz/EAA SAR K2P 9mm with SAR 15 round Magazine, but also works great with Cz75B 17 and 19 round Magazines
SAR B6P Magazines will interchange, as well as frames and Slide Assemblies.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SAR_B6P_K2P_xchange.jpg)
SAR B6P & K2P Slide/Barrel Exchange
Now to find a good place to get the Mec-Gar CZ75 magazines
I've gotten good prices and service from Greg Cote.
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php
Also to note, Sarsmilaz is the only licensed clone of CZ - so they're doing a nice job making their pieces instead of being a second rate copycat. That and the fact that they're the 2nd largest producer of sidearms for NATO tells you they're not novices at this. Glad to have these coming more available.
Actually, the SAR B6P and SAR K2P are more Tanfoglio Clones. Not exact copies, but close. The SAR K2P Slide design is more SigArms than Tanfoglio with it's barrel lockup.
Tanfoglio and Sarsilmaz had a partnership some years ago, with Tanfoglio getting the bad end of the deal, from what I have read.
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Just picked up the new baby. Love the Sars. Mags are interchangeable between the B6P & K2P. And on a side note, both these have factory illuminescient sights. Quite bright after a good charge with a flashlight. I'm happy as a clam.
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So if I'm not mistaken,if it accepts the B6P magazines the tanfoglio PS 9 mags should fit as well.
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I have had my SAR K2P for a few weeks now. I had to adjust the sight, it was hitting to the left and low. So far it has performed without any problems, no jamming or failure to feed. I did get a Mec-Gar 17 round magazine for it that I really like. So far I have truly enjoyed the SAR K2P and keep it right beside my recliner when I am home relaxing.
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Congratulations on your new SAR K2P! I've had one for quite awhile now and often carry it or use it as my "House Gun".
Mostly, I use the Mec-Gar Cz75B AFC 17 round Magazines with it.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SAR_K2P_Mag.jpg)
Sarsilmaz/EAA SAR K2P 9mm with SAR 15 round Magazine, but also works great with Cz75B 17 and 19 round Magazines
SAR B6P Magazines will interchange, as well as frames and Slide Assemblies.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SAR_B6P_K2P_xchange.jpg)
SAR B6P & K2P Slide/Barrel Exchange
Now to find a good place to get the Mec-Gar CZ75 magazines
I've gotten good prices and service from Greg Cote.
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php
Also to note, Sarsmilaz is the only licensed clone of CZ - so they're doing a nice job making their pieces instead of being a second rate copycat. That and the fact that they're the 2nd largest producer of sidearms for NATO tells you they're not novices at this. Glad to have these coming more available.
Actually, the SAR B6P and SAR K2P are more Tanfoglio Clones. Not exact copies, but close. The SAR K2P Slide design is more SigArms than Tanfoglio with it's barrel lockup.
Tanfoglio and Sarsilmaz had a partnership some years ago, with Tanfoglio getting the bad end of the deal, from what I have read.
Why are there differences in the dust covers between the two 9mm Sar K2Ps. The first picture look like the K2P I'm familiar with the K2P in the second picture is different
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Why are there differences in the dust covers between the two 9mm Sar K2Ps. The first picture look like the K2P I'm familiar with the K2P in the second picture is different
IF you will go back and read the post, you will find that the two Pistols had their Slide Assemblies exchanged to illustrate commonality of design and function.
THIS is what they normally look like.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SAR_B6P_K2P.jpg)
EAA imported SAR B6P and K2P 9mm Pistols
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jwc007
I did read that! What threw me was both the B6P and K2P have the same length barrel, 3.8" just didn't think
there was that much difference in the length of the slides
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I can only tell you that the mecgar CZ mags work and that I'm very fond of my K2P. I probably shoot it more than my CZ85 Combat. The SAR is my home defense gun because its dead nuts reliable and has a great trigger. If I lost this gun, I would replace it with the exact same model. I congratulate you on your purchase. They are one hell of a deal.
How is recoil on the K2P compared to the CZ85 combat? I really like the idea of a steel framed gun since I'm only using it at the range, but it seems to be a steal at 280.
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Couple of other little K2P notes:
You can chamber a round with the safety engaged. Not a CZ feature.
You can replace the hammer spring with a Wolfe reduced spring and get a really nice DA pull. The parts are listed under EAA. (Have not done it yet but tried one out. It's on the to-do list.)
The Houge hand-all slip on grip fills out the palm swell area and created a nice control area.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/mesabill/image.jpg1_zpsq4xetydk.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/mesabill/media/image.jpg1_zpsq4xetydk.jpg.html)
I have not had an issue with any of my CZ mags. From 26 to 10, they all seem to work well. The early CZ factory follower does like to lock back the slide.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/mesabill/image.jpg1_zpsrivjkyfm.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/mesabill/media/image.jpg1_zpsrivjkyfm.jpg.html)
I have a addiction: I'm a mag-hoe. I take a picture of what-works-with-what so I only have to figure that out once.
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Same Here, the EAA SAR K2P has been my daily carry since I've purchased it. I've shot my 9mm reloads with 124g FMJ and 124g Critical Duty(Factory Load) without a problem. I purchased a Wolff Triple Hammer Spring Pack. (13,14,15). Most folks go with 14# to set off primers reliably. 13# from what I've researched will not set off some Steel Cased or Cheap ammo, so you will need a lower rate firing pin spring, Which Wolff doesn't offer. The trigger performs well with light CZ polishing, works very well right out of the case though.
If you decide to tackle the Hammer Spring you will need a Tiny Punch to get the safety off the Right side of the frame. It is a super small pin, I had to file down the smallest punch I had to get it to fit.
The grip angle is great, IPO Hogue grips I added Skateboard tape to the side panels. I've been practicing my Stippling and may do the side panels when I work up the nerve.
I purchased a Fobus SP-01 Holster on sale from the LGS, Needless to say it didn't fit(initially) However I filed and heated the plastic and reshaped it to fit perfectly. Has a audible Click when you insert it, and retains it very well.
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I did read that! What threw me was both the B6P and K2P have the same length barrel, 3.8" just didn't think
there was that much difference in the length of the slides
??? The Full Size SAR B6P, which I have, has a 4.5 inch barrel. The SAR K2P has a 3.8 inch barrel.
The Compact SAR B6P ( aka B6PC ) also has a 3.8 inch barrel.
(http://eaacorp.com/media/djcatalog2/images/item/1/sar-b6p-semi-auto-pistol-sarsilmaz.1_l.jpg)
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I did read that! What threw me was both the B6P and K2P have the same length barrel, 3.8" just didn't think
there was that much difference in the length of the slides
??? The Full Size SAR B6P, which I have, has a 4.5 inch barrel. The SAR K2P has a 3.8 inch barrel.
The Compact SAR B6P ( aka B6PC ) also has a 3.8 inch barrel.
(http://eaacorp.com/media/djcatalog2/images/item/1/sar-b6p-semi-auto-pistol-sarsilmaz.1_l.jpg)
Since you own the B6P and the K2P, is there that big of a difference in accuracy/recoil with a 0.7 inch barrel length difference? Since I only plan on using my gun at the range, I don't really care much for compactness, but it seems like the K2P is built better than the B6P on every other aspect from what I've read.
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Since you own the B6P and the K2P, is there that big of a difference in accuracy/recoil with a 0.7 inch barrel length difference?
The shorter barrel on the K2P will give a bit more muzzle blast with some ammunition. I do tend to shoot the B6P more accurately, but that's more related to ergonomics than quality of fit.
Recoil is about the same between the two. I do find the shorter K2P faster to handle in action shooting drills.
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Ah okay, cool. Thanks!
I guess I'll just pick whichever one is cheaper at the time since I won't be buying for at least another 3-4 weeks. Plus, I figure I'm gonna be a much bigger variable as a novice shooter.
Another question though... I thought the B6P and K2P have the same ergonomics since the frame is the same?
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Another question though... I thought the B6P and K2P have the same ergonomics since the frame is the same?
True, but slide profile enters into the ergonomic equation too. Longer sight radius= easier accuracy.
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That makes sense. I never really considered sight radius to be a factor in ergonomics.
At what distance do you notice that the longer sight radius really makes a difference? 25 yd?
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At what distance do you notice that the longer sight radius really makes a difference? 25 yd?
50 feet is the max distance our indoor range provides and that's what I've tested it at.
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Thanks! Still unsure what direction I'm going but every bit of info helps haha
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jwc007
I did read that! What threw me was both the B6P and K2P have the same length barrel, 3.8" just didn't think
there was that much difference in the length of the slides
The b6p has a 4.5 inch barrel the k2p has a 3.8 inch barrel, I love my k2p.
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The YING: The K2p's rear sight is user adjustable for both windage and elevation. I like this in a range gun and think it makes little difference in a home defense weapon. To me, this gives better accuracy regardless of the longer sight distance on the BP.
The YANG: The B6P's sights are more snag free in a concealed carry scenario but need a special tool drifting the sight to make windage adjustments. You need a new sight if elevation is an issue.
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Just picked my new K2P from my LGS last Friday ;D. Even the guys working at the shop were impressed with it. I am looking forward to taking it to the range but that will have to wait. I am currently off work with a ruptured bicep and partially torn tendon :( I could only shoot this thing if my life depended on it right now. It wasn't the best timing for buying a pistol but when it went on sale at GAG for $265, I couldn't pass it up. Out the door, it was $281. A few of my buddies that own a lot of high dollar pistols are now looking to pick one of these up. Best bang for the buck (no pun intended ) going right now, especially when on sale. I wish I could have bought 2 of them. Just wonder how long before the price goes up and stays up on these.