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Offline crosstimbers

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2019, 05:14:19 PM »
Glocks are functional, but they aren't all that and a bag of chips as some suggest. To debunk a bit, people often cite that they are used  by many law enforcement agencies- yes and the same could have been said at one time about Chrysler sedans, in other words "low bid". I own a Glock, and I trust it as I do several other firearms that I own. But I  know it isn't infallible. For me, the grip angle is wrong (not what I was used to before carrying one) and it still gives me problems. In short, they are popular because they work, they are affordable and they are available everywhere....but for some of us they are kind of like the gal you would seek out on Friday night after your steady pulled a break-up stunt, a go-to gal but not your true love.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2019, 09:11:33 PM »
As a brand, I’m agonist. I’ve found the subcompacts and 45 cal versions fit me reasonably- not the best, but reasonably. The standard size-19, 17, and its 40 counterparts not so much. Not sure why. Only Glock I currently own is the G43.

All that said, never had any failures with those glocks.

However, I prefer other polymer striker guns to Glock- for my the P10c and SIGs P320 are my preferences.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2019, 10:00:12 PM »
I’ve never shot a Glock that I liked or enjoyed - but can certainly appreciate their reliability and utility worth.  I will probably never own one.  I already own weapons I don’t enjoy shooting - but that function for their intended purpose.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 03:00:14 AM »
Vinny, the new factory is being built right now in Little Rock.  8) Expect more US made P-10s, hopefully in 6 months or so.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2019, 07:26:17 AM »
Vinny, the new factory is being built right now in Little Rock.  8) Expect more US made P-10s, hopefully in 6 months or so.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2019, 07:34:15 AM »
I gotta be honest, I fell for the hype with Glock at first but discovered CZ and it's various "clones" pretty quick. First I slightly customized a G19 & G26 with a couple goodies but the biggie was installing the Cominolli manual thumb safety on each. Please don't hate on me, I just prefer a manual thumb safety. Bullets hurt a lot so any added safety is appreciated. I realized pretty quick that ergonomic Glocks are not I ended up building a custom NOMAD9 Defense, also with the Cominolli safety kit, and it was pretty sweet. I ended up mounting Vickers Elite 2dot tritium sites on it (not pictured). But then came Jericho's (IMI & IWI), Tanfoglio, ITM, and Sarsilmaz.





One of the forums I belong to is very Glock centric.  It is THE pistol over there.  And yet, a few months back the owner brought up the safeties you've installed and stated he'd had one installed on his carry pistol and found out he now felt the "need" for one and was going to have other Glocks converted and would be offering similar sales/installation of those safeties on the Glock pistols used/carried by people on that forum or others not on the forum but who desired to have that extra bit of safety.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2019, 09:16:56 AM »
I gotta be honest, I fell for the hype with Glock at first but discovered CZ and it's various "clones" pretty quick. First I slightly customized a G19 & G26 with a couple goodies but the biggie was installing the Cominolli manual thumb safety on each. Please don't hate on me, I just prefer a manual thumb safety. Bullets hurt a lot so any added safety is appreciated. I realized pretty quick that ergonomic Glocks are not I ended up building a custom NOMAD9 Defense, also with the Cominolli safety kit, and it was pretty sweet. I ended up mounting Vickers Elite 2dot tritium sites on it (not pictured). But then came Jericho's (IMI & IWI), Tanfoglio, ITM, and Sarsilmaz.





One of the forums I belong to is very Glock centric.  It is THE pistol over there.  And yet, a few months back the owner brought up the safeties you've installed and stated he'd had one installed on his carry pistol and found out he now felt the "need" for one and was going to have other Glocks converted and would be offering similar sales/installation of those safeties on the Glock pistols used/carried by people on that forum or others not on the forum but who desired to have that extra bit of safety.
I understand that not all people are mechanically inclined but the Cominolli MSK, for me, is a great product and was easy to install. I bought the frame jig from the website and an inexpensive "dremmel" tool from Walmart to install it. Total installation time, including pistol teardown, 30-45 min. I researched other add-on safeties for Glock and the Cominolli, in my opinion, was the best design and most practical application of an add-on safety. Zero regrets.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2019, 09:18:01 AM »
Glock makes a great product for the money.  It is a tool for a job.  They have built a business model around military/LE, and have done well building an infrastructure to support that market.  As long as there is a strong military/LE following, there will be at least reasonable private sales as well.

I trust my Glocks implicitly; they are reliable.  They aren't my most ergonomic guns, but they WILL work.  Having been through 5 iterative development cycles; it is the most refined of the polymer framed striker fired designs out there.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2019, 09:25:56 AM »
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            The Cominolli is NOT designed for the NOMAD Defense NOMAD9 frame. With only a slight bit of work I was able to install it and it functioned 100%.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2019, 03:46:33 PM »
Glocks still sells a ton of Pistols, for the same reason Kodak, still sells a ton of these
They do the job .... just point and shoot:

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2019, 04:33:08 PM »
  Having been through 5 iterative development cycles; it is the most refined of the polymer framed striker fired designs out there.

Not so much.They are at gen 5 and they have YET to address the ergonomic issues that MANY shooters find problematic with the design while others are making striker fired polymer pistols that are every bit as reliable AND ergonomically superior to the block.
I don't have a dog in this fight as I have zero use for a plastic striker pistol but if I were in the market the Walther PPQ, HK VP or the CZ P10 lines all feel much better in the hand than any glock I've ever handled.
I have fired them all and the Walther and HK striker pistols are not only ergonomically superior to the glock they have the very best factory stock triggers on the market.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2019, 04:43:39 PM »
Glock makes a great product for the money.  It is a tool for a job.  They have built a business model around military/LE, and have done well building an infrastructure to support that market.  As long as there is a strong military/LE following, there will be at least reasonable private sales as well.

I trust my Glocks implicitly; they are reliable.  They aren't my most ergonomic guns, but they WILL work.  Having been through 5 iterative development cycles; it is the most refined of the polymer framed striker fired designs out there.

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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2019, 07:17:02 PM »
Glocks still sells a ton of Pistols, for the same reason Kodak, still sells a ton of these
They do the job .... just point and shoot: ::)
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I thought Kodak went through bankruptcy in 2013? The Kodak that emerged from bankruptcy isn't the same company.
There may still be some of these relic cameras on dealer shelves, but I thought these cameras fell by the wayside along with Kodak's film-based biz, as digital transfer from cellphone cameras ate their lunch? 

It's a fast-changing world. I suppose that's your point. Nothing lasts forever! Glock today, gone tomorrow as something comes along that changes everything.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2019, 08:37:21 PM »
I've had a bunch of CZs (and CZ-pattern guns), a bunch of SIGs, a bunch of CZs over the years -- along with  number of other guns, including several S&W M&P Pros. 

The only ones I now avoid are the hammer-fired SIGs -- but I would like to have another SIG P210-6 someday. 

I like my SIG P320 a lot, maybe a bit more than I like my CZ P10c. (Even after an HB Industries trigger system upgrade, my P10c still gives me a little trigger string.  It is accurate, however.)

I prefer the ergonomics of the CZs to that of the Glocks, but while I hear a lot of complaints about the Glock grip angle, I never had a problem with a Glock IF I used the sights.  If my attacker is close enough that I'll need to POINT SHOOT, I doubt that the grip angle will matter that much. 

Then, too, the best qualifying score I ever got in an IDPA qualifier match was done using a Glock 34.

The strength of the Glock design is its simplicity and the wide variety of after-market parts available at generally reasonable prices.  The new CZ P-10 line is almost as simple, and aftermarket parts are starting to find their way into the shooting world at reasonable prices.   

There will be more striker-fired CZs coming down the pike.  I hope, eventually to get a P-09, too -- which seems to be one of the best of the hammer-fired CZs (if you want to avoid spending outrageous amounts of money!) available.
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Re: Why Glock aren't that great but are still popular?
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2019, 07:43:34 AM »
Individual pistols don't much matter as one can be different than the next.

But, my P09 9MM is the most accurate center fire semi-auto pistol I've ever fired.  Worth sending off to CGW for the slide machining/cerakoting, RMR installation and back up sight milling/sight installation.  More than doubled the cost of the original and well worth it.  Didn't make it shoot smaller groups, did open up the conditions the pistol is usable under.

Worst thing about the P07/P09 was the magazine cost and with the introduction of the P10 it seems the cost of the magazines have dropped to a more reasonable figure.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?