Jack of all trades rifle?

[DOC 1500]

10.5" AR15, .223, with a "flash can" instead of a flash suppressor.  That directs the flash/sound/concussion forward of the shooter instead of sideways around the flash suppressor/muzzle break.



I don't have a .300 BO pistol.  I do have .300 BO carbine.  For the cost of the heavy match bullets (I reload) I can buy 4 times as many 55 grain bullets for the .223 vs. the 220 grain HPBT in .30 caliber.

I've never shot a 220 grain bullet out of the .300 BO carbine.  I've shot 150 grain FMJBT and soft point boat tails and the darn thing kicks more than my GII .308 with the same bullets moving a lot faster.  It's got an H2 buffer in it and still kicks harder than anything but the M1A or M1 Garand.  The BO even has a carbine length gas system, not a pistol length gas system, so port pressure will be lower on the carbine than on the pistols - and it still kicks hard.  Even with the faster burning powders used in the BO, the recoil is uncomfortable.  I'd rather shoot the M1A or the M1 Garand.

As they say, your mileage may vary. 

My youngest son has a .300 BO pistol (AR type).  His only comment after shooting it to get it sighted in was, "Little sucker kicks pretty good."  He hasn't mentioned taking it shooting since.

Flash can / flash forward device,
Is a great addition to any SBR or  AR pistol.
First time I went to an indoor range there were 4 out of 6 Lanes being used.
I did not have Flash Forward device on my AR pistol .223. Just a VG6 muzzle brake .
 it was a huge concussion in my Lane,
And after the first two 10 round mags everybody left.
Not long after I went to an outdoor range, and the guy in the lane next to me moved down two more spots.
I purchased the Flash Forward device and it was a game changer.
It definitely directs the Flash and concussion forward rather than not having one.
My particular Flash Forward device has a mounting ring that goes on behind the muzzle  brake and the Flash can screws on over the muzzle brake.
https://postimg.cc/SJtMb7c8

[Lord_Balkan]

What would be the effective range of 223 out of a 9 to 11 " barrel? Is it still good for self defense?

[double-d]

https://postimg.cc/SJtMb7c8

What brand is that flash forward device?  I'm interested in one for a carbine.

[KnightSchneider]

Your effective range will still be at least 300 yds - far beyond I'm sure what you intend for this weapon.

I wouldn't go below 10.5" for .223/5.56 - my personal preference on how much powder I want to convert into 'sound and fury signifying nothing.'

I have a 10.5, 11.5, and a 12.5" in .223 Wylde; given everything, I have found the 12.5 to be the best of all worlds.  With a 'k' length 5.56 can, you have a short, light, handy rifle that handles about like a standard AR15 but is borderline hearing safe.

You can cheat the hangman on energy and velocity a little with load selection; MK262 77 gr ammo does better out of short barrels.

For short barrels, the .300BO and 7.62X39 are far better; the cartridge itself and the bore diameter make it far less dependent on barrel length for proper velocity.

7.62X39 is my choice for jack of all trades caliber; I have a CZ527 suppressor ready with a suppressor and subsonic ammo, and a few AK's.

[crosstimbers]

There are many rifles that fit the "jack of all trades" definition, mostly because different people envision different needs when thinking of such things. If you want a semi-auto, then various designs would qualify. My choice would be my 527 in 7.62x39. One factor to consider is ammunition availability and cost, 300 BO is pricey and a bit less available in cheap bulk compared to others.

[DOC 1500]

What would be the effective range of 223 out of a 9 to 11 " barrel? Is it still good for self defense?

there are many videos on YouTube showing the effectiveness of an SBR

[DOC 1500]

https://postimg.cc/SJtMb7c8

What brand is that flash forward device?  I'm interested in one for a carbine.

Here ya go...
https://msrarms.com/products/indian-creek-bfd-blast-forwarding-device/

[DOC 1500]

What would be the effective range of 223 out of a 9 to 11 " barrel? Is it still good for self defense?

https://youtu.be/bNT9VMBGesY
Just do some searching is plenty of stuff out there.

[M1A4ME]

the 8.5" AR pistol has a Noveske PIG on it.  The older/longer style.

the 10.5" AR pistol has a Kineti Tech unit on it.  This one:

https://www.kineti-tech.com/kineti-tech-muzzle-brake-with-sound-redirect-with-13-16-x-16-threaded-sleeve-2-piece/

It's two piece.  The compensator looking inside screws onto the barrel.  The knurled outside shroud screws onto the compensator piece.

I have never shot it with the outside shroud removed.

[jwc007]

My choice in a jack of all trades Rifle would be either one of these:


Early Milled Chinese SKS


AR15A2 HBAR

[double-d]

Here ya go...
https://msrarms.com/products/indian-creek-bfd-blast-forwarding-device/

TY

[Texas377]

Several years ago I might have given a different answer than today.  About 5 years ago I started divesting myself of guns of multiple calibers.  Because of ammunition availability, I chose to go with:

    Rifle - AR 5.56
    Pistol - 9mm
   
My only two exceptions are a Marlin Model 60 .22 cal. and a Ruger LCP .380

[DenStinett]

Here's my pick
A true, Jack of all Trades Rifle
A combo .223 Rem over 20g Savage 24
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/savage-combination-guns/savage-24-223-20-gauge.cfm?gun_id=101409383

Or a 12g over .223 Rem IZH94:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/862253209


Mine is a 12g over .308 Remington SPR94:

Added this Ammo Carrier to it:


I know the Barrel is longer than your ideal length, but you'll always have the right Longgun at the ready

[Earl Keese]

I don't know about jack of all trades, that's an elusive goal. . .but I think this is currently my most versatile "pistol". Basic 300BO build, no crazy exotic parts. 10.5" barrel, SBA4 arm brace. As shown it weighs 6.5lbs and with the brace extended it's the same length as my carbine. With subs it's reasonably quiet and accurate out to 100yds with no effort. Felt recoil is less than my .223 with a single port brake. I reload so ammo cost isn't a factor. I live in the woods,  intended purpose is critter control- 2 & 4 legged, 75yds is all I need. It makes a pretty tidy package for truck carry as well. Spend a few dollars more on a folder for the brace and it will be very compact.

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[Cyanide]

I’m very biased, but my VZ58 CQB model has become my current “Jack of all trades” rifle. I know that 5.56 would suffice for most situations I’d possibly find myself in but, I just prefer a slightly larger caliber carbine for bigger 4-legged threats, especially since that’s a greater risk for me living in a rural, wooded area.