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Offline Scorepion

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #90 on: August 31, 2020, 08:28:23 PM »
^As much as I love the Bren 2, the ergonomics, light handling, modularity w/ optics, accuracy and (for me, thus far) reliability, I can’t use it as a go to, first tier shtf weapon because it has no parts or service back up from CZ, even after @ 2 years of imports into the USA. Inexcusable.

I can’t keep track of the people having failures to extract / eject issues with the Bren 2, but it seems that all   have 7.62x39 guns and (most) have fitted aftermarket hand guards and / or rail plates... may have to do a poll, though I’m no inter web genus....

A thread Poll may be a good sticky. Not to bleep on Bren 762 sales but IF its an issue it needs resolving- A poll edit for participants? Or add incremental round counts for those who make the next marks. (worked fine until it hit 2500 and handgaurd was swapped at x round count)  As of now my 5.56 is is fine, awaiting a 10.8" HBI rail. I do/did have plans for the 762 when kits come along.

This sorta sucks taking away the modularity selling point if this is a trend or if its caused by something. It should be able to eat common steel 762 or thats just lame IMHO.

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2020, 09:51:58 AM »
As a x39 Bren 2 owner I support this thread.  Had occasional FTEs within the first few mags.  Had to ship it back for warranty repair.  CZ-USA adjusted my extractor spring (or so I'm told).  Still have some issues and rounds don't eject consistently. 

CZ y u do dis?  I thought you love us.  </3

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2020, 02:22:19 PM »
^As much as I love the Bren 2, the ergonomics, light handling, modularity w/ optics, accuracy and (for me, thus far) reliability, I can’t use it as a go to, first tier shtf weapon because it has no parts or service back up from CZ, even after @ 2 years of imports into the USA. Inexcusable.

I can’t keep track of the people having failures to extract / eject issues with the Bren 2, but it seems that all   have 7.62x39 guns and (most) have fitted aftermarket hand guards and / or rail plates... may have to do a poll, though I’m no inter web genus....

A thread Poll may be a good sticky. Not to bleep on Bren 762 sales but IF its an issue it needs resolving- A poll edit for participants? Or add incremental round counts for those who make the next marks. (worked fine until it hit 2500 and handgaurd was swapped at x round count)  As of now my 5.56 is is fine, awaiting a 10.8" HBI rail. I do/did have plans for the 762 when kits come along.

This sorta sucks taking away the modularity selling point if this is a trend or if its caused by something. It should be able to eat common steel 762 or thats just lame IMHO.

I wouldn't put much stake in conversion kits ever coming out. Bren 2 is at 2 years now and no kits, not even replacement parts. I've been burned so many times buying guns with the promise of conversion kits that I now buy guns based on the assumption it will always be the caliber I bought it in. The Bren 2: no kits. 805 Bren: no kits. Beretta ARX: no kits. Tavor X95: no kits. The only gun I have that actually has kits available is my Robinson XCR. I really really hope CZ makes me eat my hat though....but I remain pessimistic....

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2020, 02:26:41 PM »
Thats disappointing especially with the tolerable cost of 762 these days vs 556

How much of a huge deal do you think it would be to get a barrel made up for after market? Group buy with proof research or something. I'd be in. Of course the reliability would need resolved first. I can have pipe dreams anyway.


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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2020, 02:58:09 PM »
Thats disappointing especially with the tolerable cost of 762 these days vs 556

How much of a huge deal do you think it would be to get a barrel made up for after market? Group buy with proof research or something. I'd be in. Of course the reliability would need resolved first. I can have pipe dreams anyway.


yeah. It happens every time with me. 1. Company announces new rifle. 2. Company states it's multi-caliber. 3. Company states conversion kits will be available. 4. Years pass by with no conversions. 5. I get sad. 6. I curse my naiveté. 7. Rinse and repeat.

On a serious note.... the few times companies have actually had conversion kits for their guns, they are usually prohibitively expensive to the point where a whole new rifle is only a little bit more. I do think Robinson did it right though, they have a ton of conversions and their conversions are only like $600. Initial cost of the rifle is pretty high though... Like I said, I really want CZ to make me wrong.

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #95 on: September 01, 2020, 03:35:31 PM »
It would be nice but at this point I’d be happy just to be able to get some parts. Depending on the election, we may never see any. I jumped on the band wagon hard even dumped a couple of AR’s to buy a couple more Bren’s than I already had plus all the money spent on aftermarket stuff to get it where it should be to begin with. Same as I had to do with all the CZ pistols I replaced all my Glocks with.

Each month that goes by with no support and hearing of all the issues people are having with their guns and basically a middle finger attitude from CZ customer service I’m starting to really regret getting into the platform. At this point I wish I had just stayed with AR’s and Glocks.

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2020, 11:42:56 AM »
762 Users with good or bad issues please vote in the poll below link

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=112000.0
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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2020, 01:22:42 PM »
I've been talking to CZUB on Facebook.  I made them aware of the issue, reportedly, they have gotten in touch with CZ-USA. 

CZUB has responded;
We're trying our best to solve this. We always listen to our customers.
Thanks again for your message and take care!
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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2020, 02:30:41 PM »
TIM @ Military Arms Channel is going to run a test on their Bren 2Ms to see if they can replicate the failures, will be available tomorrow. 

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Re: Bren 2 9&quot; FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2020, 02:34:41 PM »
I only put 120 rounds through my 11” 7.62 Bren 2s, and 0 failures, but I will say when shooting it felt overgassed to me


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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2020, 02:57:04 PM »
That is good news, what ammo ^

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Re: Bren 2 9&quot; FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2020, 03:03:18 PM »
I only put 120 rounds through my 11” 7.62 Bren 2s, and 0 failures, but I will say when shooting it felt overgassed to me


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Are you getting dings on the front of your ejection port due to the cases bouncing off the front?  Even when shouldered and ads, I notice cases ejecting at 12:30 to 2 o'clock.

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Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2020, 10:53:50 PM »
I only put 120 rounds through my 11” 7.62 Bren 2s, and 0 failures, but I will say when shooting it felt overgassed to me


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Are you getting dings on the front of your ejection port due to the cases bouncing off the front?  Even when shouldered and ads, I notice cases ejecting at 12:30 to 2 o'clock.
No dings, but I was running brass case so I will watch for that after next trip, I plan to run a few hundred various steel case through. It was Geco Target, I’ll post on the other topic afterwards also, with round count and results


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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2020, 08:22:41 AM »
I only put 120 rounds through my 11” 7.62 Bren 2s, and 0 failures, but I will say when shooting it felt overgassed to me


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Are you getting dings on the front of your ejection port due to the cases bouncing off the front?  Even when shouldered and ads, I notice cases ejecting at 12:30 to 2 o'clock.
No dings, but I was running brass case so I will watch for that after next trip, I plan to run a few hundred various steel case through. It was Geco Target, I’ll post on the other topic afterwards also, with round count and results


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run a few hundred rounds of steel cased and get back to us :)

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Re: Bren 2 9" FTE/Stovepipe issues
« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2020, 10:13:55 AM »
Hey guys, I had a 9" Bren 2s in 7.62x39 that I eventually sold to fund a B&T APC 223, which I'm glad I did. Anyway, the Bren 2s never had any reliability issues at all and all ejection patterns were ejecting and landing in the same spot (no erratic ejection patterns). I missed the Bren 2s so bad I purchased another Bren 2s in 7.62x39 but in 11". I haven't run any ammo through it yet but all I have is Wolf polyformance and it worked great through my 9". I think this might be a Bren 2Ms issue with improper quality control from the US because the Bren 2s hasn't any any issues what so ever as long as you don't mess with the torque specs and mlok rails. I easily put 500 rounds through my old 9" bren 2s prior to selling it.