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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2022, 12:50:49 PM »
Do you own/shoot AR15 rifles/carbines?

If so, why not an AR15 style PCC?

Consistency is a good thing.  Same manual of arms isn't bad if the weapons are good.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2022, 07:12:26 PM »
Do you own/shoot AR15 rifles/carbines?

If so, why not an AR15 style PCC?

Consistency is a good thing.  Same manual of arms isn't bad if the weapons are good.


I do, one of the reasons I mentioned foxtrot mike
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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2022, 09:52:05 PM »
Oh you kids and your new fangled fancy schmansy black rifles. This Marlin Camp 9 dates from 1990, but I've only owned it for twenty years or so. At one time I had a S&W 59, so they could share magazines. Very accurate at 50 yds., and I can ring 6" steel at 100 all day long. I don't think it matters what you get - they're all light, quick and and a hoot to shoot.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2022, 11:56:48 PM »
Oh you kids and your new fangled fancy schmansy black rifles. This Marlin Camp 9 dates from 1990, but I've only owned it for twenty years or so. At one time I had a S&W 59, so they could share magazines. Very accurate at 50 yds., and I can ring 6" steel at 100 all day long. I don't think it matters what you get - they're all light, quick and and a hoot to shoot.




Yeah, what he said, you young whipper snappers!!!

That’s a hell of a scope for a 9mm carbine…10x24?

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2022, 06:40:12 AM »
Somebody needs to make a PCC in 7.5 FK Brno

When the Field Pistol (7.5 FK) came out I recall that they (FKBRNO) were thinking of making the round available for a rifle/carbine.

The whole point of a PCC is to use the same ammo and be able to have large capacity magazines.

But PCCs have been around for a while...

Consider 7.62x25mm - for the CZ52 and a variety of submachine guns.

And today there are even 7.62x25mm ARs: 

7.62x25 AR carbine - YouTube

In this video they talk about how cheap the old eastern bloc surplus ammo has been....5 cents/round!!
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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2022, 10:35:58 AM »
Oh you kids and your new fangled fancy schmansy black rifles. This Marlin Camp 9 dates from 1990, but I've only owned it for twenty years or so. At one time I had a S&W 59, so they could share magazines. Very accurate at 50 yds., and I can ring 6" steel at 100 all day long. I don't think it matters what you get - they're all light, quick and and a hoot to shoot.




Yeah, what he said, you young whipper snappers!!!

That’s a hell of a scope for a 9mm carbine…10x24?

That is a Tasco 3-9 that was on the rifle when I bought it. A bit of overkill, lol. I swapped that out for a compact Vector 1-5 x 32 that is much more appropriate for the rifle. For an inexpensive scope it's performed surprisingly well.
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PCC recommendations?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2022, 11:50:21 AM »
Oh you kids and your new fangled fancy schmansy black rifles. This Marlin Camp 9 dates from 1990, but I've only owned it for twenty years or so. At one time I had a S&W 59, so they could share magazines. Very accurate at 50 yds., and I can ring 6" steel at 100 all day long. I don't think it matters what you get - they're all light, quick and and a hoot to shoot.


Nice! At some point I wanted a Marlin Camp 9, but couldn’t find one.
Perhaps Ruger brings it back.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2022, 01:28:09 PM »
Oh you kids and your new fangled fancy schmansy black rifles. This Marlin Camp 9 dates from 1990, but I've only owned it for twenty years or so. At one time I had a S&W 59, so they could share magazines. Very accurate at 50 yds., and I can ring 6" steel at 100 all day long. I don't think it matters what you get - they're all light, quick and and a hoot to shoot.


Nice! At some point I wanted a Marlin Camp 9, but couldn’t find one.
Perhaps Ruger brings it back.


I don’t know, Ruger already makes several models of the “PC” carbine for those trapped in Libtardia, which takes Glock mags, so probably not. Maybe Ruger will make a “PC C” with a wood stock for die-hard Fudds. The jam-o-matic S&W Model 59 and mags thereof are long since out of favor.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2022, 01:44:35 PM »
Somebody needs to make a PCC in 7.5 FK Brno

When the Field Pistol (7.5 FK) came out I recall that they (FKBRNO) were thinking of making the round available for a rifle/carbine.

The whole point of a PCC is to use the same ammo and be able to have large capacity magazines.

But PCCs have been around for a while...

Consider 7.62x25mm - for the CZ52 and a variety of submachine guns.

And today there are even 7.62x25mm ARs: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGfqYg3p2Zc

In this video they talk about how cheap the old eastern bloc surplus ammo has been....5 cents/round!!


Interesting concept, though I couldn’t get the video to play. Unfortunately PPU, S&B and (corrosive?) surplus FMJ ammo is now up to 50 cents/round. Don’t know of any HPs available, though 7.62x25 fmj  is purported to penetrate body armor.

7.5 FK Brno and the re-emergent 10mm would seem to be a no-brainer as a more powerful PCC, especially since those two calibers and their mags are interchangeable with a barrel swap.
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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2022, 05:28:50 PM »
A basic EVO 3 Scorpion pistol runs like a top out of the box, doesn’t initially break the bank and mags are uber cheap, plentiful and reliable. 

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2022, 07:58:17 PM »
After my research and input from here and others I trust, I decided to get a Foxtrot Mike PCC.  Should be here next week, then must wait for the state to declare I’m a good guy >:( before I can get it.

Only disappointing aspect is they don’t include magazines.  Ordered those today and expect them early next week.

Now on the hunt for a red dot ;)
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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2022, 02:05:47 PM »
After my research and input from here and others I trust, I decided to get a Foxtrot Mike PCC.  Should be here next week, then must wait for the state to declare I’m a good guy >:( before I can get it.

Only disappointing aspect is they don’t include magazines.  Ordered those today and expect them early next week.

Now on the hunt for a red dot ;)
[/quoteRef ]Foxtrot Mike PCC, I thought I read somewhere that this gun requires a 500 round break in. That is a big reason why I no longer look at this weapon. As if these guns aren't expensive enough, you have to fire 500 rounds of different bullet weights before its broken in? At todays cost for ammo, that is an additional cost I wasn't ready to accept. It is a nice looking and reasonably priced though.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2022, 03:05:01 PM »
Rwek- will inform the team here once I get it out of waiting period of my break in experience if any.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2022, 01:15:58 PM »
After thinking about it, if I was to looking to get into a "PCC" again, I would really consider a 357MAG lever gun like the Henry Big Boy X. I would add a light and red dot optic and run it.

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Re: PCC recommendations?
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2022, 02:05:46 PM »
After thinking about it, if I was to looking to get into a "PCC" again, I would really consider a 357MAG lever gun like the Henry Big Boy X. I would add a light and red dot optic and run it.

I'm with you. My Henry .357 mag all steel Big Boy has been great. And now I'm considering either an All Weather or an "X" model in 44 mag to set up with a RDS and a WML. It would be a great camp gun, home defense, and also just a lot of fun on the open range.