So how much interest IS there for the new vZ58s?

[dancz]

I really like that folding stock, mine are only the standard stock versions. I've been wanting a folder for years now. Hope you enjoy yours as much as do my full stock ones. The folders are rare here in NZ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite like the following so you might want to keep a look out for them as well. These are also a little hard to come by in NZ and then there are all our restrictions to abide by.

 

 

 

 

 

 

CZ 61 (Scorpion)

 

 

 

 

 

 

ZK383 - 9mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

CZ23 - 9mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

CZ24 - 7.65

[armoredman]

Are your vZ58s select fire out there in NZ? I actually knew a guy working for Loomis Armored who emigrated from NZ to AZ for our gun laws. That was back in...2001 or so.

[dancz]

One of the 58's is selective and one is semi auto only. All the others shown above are selective fire.

[JJB70]

Very nice collection, Dan.

The folding stocks are available here and they seem plentiful on the Internets.  My full stock will go back on my CZ vz.58 and I will have the folding stock on the 58 I am collecting parts to build (it will have poly handguards and a poly pistol grip, as well).  But, there is nothing wrong with the full stock at all.

The Skorpions are available here, but they are sold as pistols without the wire stock.  I just haven't seen any yet with the wire folding stock.  If I could get one with a wire stock in semi-auto I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat.  Plus, I really like the look of the newer Skorpions in 9mm para.  I'd love to get some trigger time with one of those (in full auto).  But, I am not too keen on it as a "pure" pistol--it just doesn't seem right without the wire stock.  Yours is pretty cool.

Question:  The ZK383 is also 9mm para?  That's really sweet, too.

Cheers!

[Radom]

Dan has so many groovy CZs that I just assumed he was from the Czech Republic! Didn't know you were a Kiwi, Dan. It's a really impressive collection.

[quikdraw67]

"American Rifleman" did a write-up in this month's issue, they have listed a MSRP of $970.

Considering the Arsenal AK's go for $700 or so, and pre-89 AK's both Eastern European and Chinese can go for 1200-1500 depending, I really don't thinks that's too much.

FEG - sounds like you got a good price on yours.

[Radom]

"American Rifleman" did a write-up in this month's issue, they have listed a MSRP of $970.  
 
  Considering the Arsenal AK's go for $700 or so, and pre-89 AK's both Eastern European and Chinese can go for 1200-1500 depending, I really don't   thinks that's too much.  
 
  FEG - sounds like you got a good price on yours.

 

Whittaker's Guns, Kentucky (if I didn't mention).

I hate to resort to hyperbole, but the vz-58 really is about ten times the rifle, compared to an average AK.

What was funny to me about the American Rifleman review was their ammunition selection.  They used brass-cased Remington and Federal 123-124 gr ammuniton, which did not perform that well.  Their best groups came with the Wolf 154 gr SP load, but their average groups were still considerably larger than my vz-58 will shoot with steel-cased Barnaul and S&B 124 gr ammunition.  The rifle tested had the military stock, which could make a difference, I suppose.  The reviewer also commented on the recoil, which I found strange.  The Tactial Sporter version has no felt recoil at all, at least to me.  Again, this seems to be a function of the stock design (not to mention the fact that the Tactical version has a recoil pad).      

[JJB70]

By this time I was hoping to have more to post--but here is what I have.

My parts from Lichtenberg Research arrived.  I found them really easy to deal with and I got what I ordered really quickly.

Here is the barrel extension.

And here is the polymer pistol grip.

Both items are fairly self-explanatory.  But, keep in mind that these are U.S. made parts!  Gotta stay in compliance.

I had (or have) polymer hand guards on order through Tennessee Guns, but after a month of calling and waiting it is clear that they actually aren't "on the way this week."  Getting my $$$ back ought to be interesting.  I'll leave it at that, but I have to find another source for poly hand guards.  That is my next project in getting the vz.58 kit ready.

Cheers!

[Radom]

Sorry to hear that, particularly since I just ordered some floor plates....

[JJB70]

FEG,

I suspect they are just having trouble with my order.  I would imagine everything else is probably fine.  These things happen and I'd like to think it isn't SOP for them.  If for some reason you end up not getting your plates, Lichtenberg Research is doing floor plates, too.  Eventually, that's where I'll be getting mine from.

[Radom]

UPDATES:

TGI has yet to deliver my floorplates. It has been over a week. I will keep you all posted.

It appears that the Ohio Rapid Fire receivers (NOT the Ohio Ordnance Works receivers) may be junk. Czech out this thread and its related links:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38170

[quikdraw67]

Hmmm--
some good points made by Nick F. - why buy stuff you know to be junk?

Also, nothing against Ohio Ordnance Works, but their VZ58 is $300 MORE than the LIST price of the CZ-USA VZ58???

 

I have my local FFL getting a price on the CZ-USA VZ58....gotta "stimulate the economy"...and I 'm sure the Gov't would be pleased if I spend my tax rebate check on an evil "assault rifle"

Now, to see if I can clear it with the Chief Financial Officer of the Quikdraw Clan

 

 

[JJB70]

UPDATES:  
 
  TGI has yet to deliver my floorplates. It has been over a week. I will keep you all posted.  
 
  It appears that the Ohio Rapid Fire receivers (NOT the Ohio Ordnance Works receivers) may be junk. Czech out this thread and its related links:  
 
  http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38170

 

 

Hello fellow vz.58 fans,

 

I was planning on making this post on exactly both of those topics.

 

I got a message from TGI this morning that they are sending my parts out immediately.  I sent them a "not-so-nice" e-mail last night and apparently I hit a nerve.  But, now I have to wait until later next week--unfortunately, I have to play it straight and see if they are telling me the truth and see if my parts arrive (yet again).  But, I would rather just refund and look elsewhere.  I'm tired of dealing with them.  I'll post if they materialize on my doorstep, but I am doubtful.  'Nuff said.

On Ohio Rapid Fire receivers.....  FEG, we have been reading the same information and what I saw was more than enough to make me decide to stay away ORF's vz.58 receivers.  There are other discussions somewhere on the same board (The AK Files) about the ORF Galil receivers that are downright frightening.  Anyhow, I have drawn the same conclusions on the ORF product.

I am still searching for a 58 receiver and if I find anything I'll be sure to post.  Right now, the manufacturer websites I have been looking at on that topic aren't very informative.  FEG (or anyone else!), if you bump into anyone that wants to do a "group buy" type of thing let me know.  It might save a few dollars.  The only receivers I have seen so far are those by ORF and those by Ohio Ordnance Works.

Whatever happens, I have seen enough to tell me the 58 build is NOT for beginners like me, so assuming I can find a receiver I'll have to have mine built for me.  That is kind of a bummer because I was looking forward to building.

Cheers.

[JJB70]

Hmmm--  
  some good points made by Nick F. - why buy stuff you know to be junk?  
 
  Also, nothing against Ohio Ordnance Works, but their VZ58 is $300 MORE than the LIST price of the CZ-USA VZ58???

   

I have my local FFL getting a price on the CZ-USA VZ58....gotta "stimulate the economy"...and I 'm sure the Gov't would be pleased if I   spend my tax rebate check on an evil "assault rifle"  
 
  Now, to see if I can clear it with the Chief Financial Officer of the Quikdraw Clan

Quikdraw,

I am not sure how useful this is, but I say you are cleared to get one.  That probably doesn't help much, but I figure it is worth a shot.

I am quite happy with my CZ-USA vz.58 and I think you are making a good choice.

Let us know when you get it!

I don't want to drift too far off topic, but the Galil receiver thread is mind-boggling.  There is quite a bit of name-calling, slander, and mudslinging, but the basic information (when you can get to it) is convincing.

Cheers.

[Radom]

Hmmm--    
    some good points made by Nick F. - why buy stuff you know to be junk?    
   
    Also, nothing against Ohio Ordnance Works, but their VZ58 is $300 MORE than the LIST price of the CZ-USA VZ58???

     

I have my local FFL getting a price on the CZ-USA VZ58....gotta "stimulate the economy"...and I 'm sure the Gov't would be pleased if     I spend my tax rebate check on an evil "assault rifle"    
   
    Now, to see if I can clear it with the Chief Financial Officer of the Quikdraw Clan

Quikdraw,  
 
  I am not sure how useful this is, but I say you are cleared to get one. That probably doesn't help much, but I figure it is worth a shot.  
 
  I am quite happy with my CZ-USA vz.58 and I think you are making a good choice.  
 
  Let us know when you get it!  
 
  I don't want to drift too far off topic, but the Galil receiver thread is mind-boggling. There is quite a bit of name-calling, slander, and   mudslinging, but the basic information (when you can get to it) is convincing.  
 
  Cheers.

 

If you're into the whole "train wreck" type of thing, I would check out some of those Galil threads.  They represent perhaps the most epic gun flame war ever allowed to continue (threads still unlocked, last time I checked).