Sight/ milling options for Tactical?

[DustAZ]

Check out Suarez International. They can mill it for a Holosun 507k and offer several options for sights to cowitness. They can also tune your trigger.

[cfr]

In most cases, you do need suppressor height sights. That's what I have on my SRO-equipped glock.

CZ Custom did away with my stock rear sight when they milled my slide for the holosun sight. The only rear sight now is the one built into the body of the red dot. I did this on my PCR as well.

There is no turning back once you do it (aside from getting a new slide) so it is a considerable commitment.

Just to clarify you said above that the stock front sight lined up perfectly w the K model, but then mention in most cases I’d need suppressor sights— do you mean cases other than K models require suppressor sights, but with K models stock is fine? Thanks!

[no.vale.la.pena]

I just discovered how much the Trijicon costs. I really appreciate everyone’s input (especially those with a cheaper alternative 😂)!

If I were you, I would strongly consider getting your SP01 milled for a the Holousun K footprint (507k, 407k, EPS). You can direct mount the sight to the slide and not have to worry about plates.  Also you can maintain your stock iron sights, and get most depth on an SP01 slide for an RDS. Plus if you go with the full size EPS sights, you can get a enclosed emitter optic that has a very similar size to the 509T window plus all the other benefits of an enclosed emitter. 

If you do go that route, I would recommend Wager Machine works, their turnaround time, price, quality of milling, and depth of milling were the best company I've experienced with the 3 SP01 slides I have had milled for that footprint. 

I have three SP01's with 507ks on them and the stock sights have a low (~lower 1/5) cowitness which is pretty ideal for me. I have a Holosun EPS on order to replace one of the 507ks so when that comes in I will make a separate post with pics on how it looks on the slide.   

Hope this helps!

[no.vale.la.pena]

In most cases, you do need suppressor height sights. That's what I have on my SRO-equipped glock.

CZ Custom did away with my stock rear sight when they milled my slide for the holosun sight. The only rear sight now is the one built into the body of the red dot. I did this on my PCR as well.

There is no turning back once you do it (aside from getting a new slide) so it is a considerable commitment.

Just to clarify you said above that the stock front sight lined up perfectly w the K model, but then mention in most cases I’d need suppressor sights— do you mean cases other than K models require suppressor sights, but with K models stock is fine? Thanks!

If you mill your slide for one of the non-K models from Holosun, you will lose the stock rear sight dovetail and yes a suppressor-height front sight will be required for cowitness through the optic. 

If you want a rear sight for a Trijicon RMR/Holosun 407/507/508 footprint optic some companies like CGW and Primary machine will mill your slide to accept the Trijicon 1911 rear sight RMR plate (SKU: CA428-C-600757) this plate is quite expensive b/c of the tritium sights, I have a P01 (P01 has the same slide-width as an SP01) milled for that plate + RMR and I would not recommend it now that the Holosun K footprint optics exist. 

For the CZ SP01's narrow slide the K footprint optics are just a better overall option, cost-wise and for ease of the RDS reticle acquisition, imho.

[cfr]

I just discovered how much the Trijicon costs. I really appreciate everyone’s input (especially those with a cheaper alternative 😂)!

I have three SP01's with 507ks on them and the stock sights have a low (~lower 1/5) cowitness which is pretty ideal for me. I have a Holosun EPS on order to replace one of the 507ks so when that comes in I will make a separate post with pics on how it looks on the slide.   

Hope this helps!

It does indeed, thanks for the detail!

Any chance of you posting pics of this from the rear, looking at the pistol as though you’re going to fire it? Trying to get an idea of how far over the slide the k models hang and can’t find one on google.

Also, how hard is it to find the dot on a smaller optic compared to a larger one?

[no.vale.la.pena]

Any chance of you posting pics of this from the rear, looking at the pistol as though you’re going to fire it? Trying to get an idea of how far over the slide the k models hang and can’t find one on google.

^A hastily taken pic of my SP01+507k (reticle off) with the stock meprolight iron sights. Note that the perspective and focus on the picture makes the rear sight look a bit larger than it is. But, it does show the lack of overhang of the optic from the slide; the optic body is essentially flush with the slide. Again, this picture makes the slide look slightly wider at the rear than it is.  So in this case the picture is almost more confusing than a simple explanation lol. 

Also, how hard is it to find the dot on a smaller optic compared to a larger one?

Theoretically, if your presentation is very consistent, window size shouldn't make much of a difference on dot acquisition especially when working from a standing draw.  I would say the larger window is helpful mainly helpful in that the dot will be less likely to leave the window under recoil (obviously this is gun and shooter dependent, among other variables) so it is a bit easier to shoot faster splits and can also be informative for shot-calling (i.e. predicting where your shot went based on the movement of the sight/reticle after firing). Finding the dot in awkward shooting positions can be a bit easier with a larger window.   Just my perspective though, which I would say is not worth a whole lot. It is an interesting and a bit of a complex question that would be cool to hear other's feedback on. 

[cfr]

That's perfect, thanks for doing that!

In addition to being new to CZ's, Im also totally new to red dots. Does it stand to reason that if the stock sights remain in place and one is already pretty good at linking those up, that the red dot will fall in line naturally? If that's the case I wouldn't be worried about a smaller window, but I could just be wishful thinking and blowing smoke up my own a$$ 

[nkresho]

I have been adjusting to red dots for the past few months.  Hadn't used one prior, other than on a few carbines, which is really different in my opinion.

For me, it has taken quite a bit of dry fire practice to get my muscle memory to find the dot at index.  I am also using a larger window than the K models (RTS2), just a tad smaller than the SRO. 

I haven't used a cowitness setup, but i think that would be something where you'd want to train yourself to ignore the irons when the dot is on.  For me, the idea was i'd have a few less steps with the dot.  Rather than lining the sights up with eachother, making sure the space on both sides of the front sight are even, then lining the top of the front sight up with your target, all you do is put the window around the target and move the dot to the point you want to hit.

The biggest trick i needed to learn was to get my hand and arm position to snap right in line so that i could see the dot in (roughly) the middle of the window when i draw.  Once you get that down, it feels pretty natural.