Can CZ USA install a VZ-58 recoil spring in Your dust cover....Now Solved ....

[Laufer]

 ;)NeverMind:   The new spring is Finally in place, with  the 'cap' securing it:  this was Mein Kampf (my struggle-mostly just physical + coordinating).
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I was unable to correctly follow the procedures described up above, in the VZ-58 "Recoil Spring Sticky".

However---At the bottom is the Link

      the “Drink Straw” technique mentioned in the link (below) finally worked.  The correct diameter straw is pushed around, to totally surround/ 'sheath'  the Spring Retaining 'Wire', all the to the bottom of the Wire, which then remains Fully- Extended from the Inner Rod guide.

Pushing the Recoil spring now Around the drinking straw and all the way down, to the end of the dust cover, the Recoil Spring now is the outermost 'layer', so to speak.
 
Some muscle is required to now compress the outer/upper area of the spring, far enough to allow you to remove the straw (should slip off easily), exposing the uppermost 2"-3" (approx.) of the Spring Ret. wire, so that you Now can use your Other Hand to delicately pull the wire's two "hooks" apart (one at a time), and wiggle them onto the grooves of the ' retainer cap'.

 All this while pushing the spring down quite far, but Not allowing the dust cover to tumble down from its vertical position, while preferably on a non-skid (ie foam from a handgun case) table surface...

Send me a pm if you want, or via AKfiles or Gunboards.


Go to Remarks #2 in these steps: This is what I've tried to describe, which Did Work. Note:    I'm pretty skinny for a 67 year-old guy. You gents will have less trouble.   
 I used "Everyday Striped Flexible Straws"...."Kroger" brand.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/intalling-vz-58-return-spring.7048841/

[briang2ad]

Thanks for the post - good to know as it should be an operator fix.

The VZ 58 site here has been pretty dead - thanks again. 

[RSR]

Obiwan/Bonesteel's method from the sticky is the easiest way:

I poke the guide rodout the side of the uncompressed spring, hook on the retainer, then thread the spring all the way on.  Very easy to do.

I also documented it in thread below with photos (with more notes beyond below in that original thread too):

Sorry don't do youtube.  But here are some pics.  These are quick and dirty "auto correct" and I didn't bother to color equalize, so sorry for the variance in those... 

Uninstall

First, pull spring down.


Next slide down the spring stop.


After that, twist spring stop 1/2 turn.


Lift stop up and off.  Then slowly release pressure on your spring.  And then remove the spring.

 

Installation

1. Install recoil spring wire loop onto top cover



2. Install spring to base/back of top cover.  You should be able to to shake the wire loop back down...



3. Pull wire loop ends through the same spring turn:



4. Install locking piece in reverse steps of uninstall. 

Spread wire arms with locking ins pointing out and slide on locking block



Turn locking block 1/2 turn so tips align most of the way.  And ensure that your wire loop is a looped and NOT crossed/binded.  If it's crossed, you should have 1/2 turned the other direction, so now a full turn in the opposite direction.



Slide locking block up to secure.  Ends point in! 

5. Grab spring in your hand.  And then turn top cover clockwise.  Turning the top cover will rotate the fixed recoil post, the recoil wire spring guide, and the locking piece, thereby threading on the spring one loop w/ each turn.
Note: Just had my thumb on the locking piece to secure for the pic.  Don't need it there when turning, just ensure locking piece is pointed in a safe direction...



About 2/3rds of the spring installed -- as you get closer to the end, you'll want to pull threaded spring down away from locking piece to avoid it binding on the top locking piece.



About 90% of the spring installed:



One and one-half loops left to go:



One-half loop left to go:



Installed -- as you can see in the pic, below, the spring likes to stack at the end (why when installing it's good to pull the spring down and have some downward tension on the spring a few inches below the top locking piece, so that not all spring tension is there:



If you don't counteract some the spring tension, this can happen (spring is winding on against top locking piece and binding -- continuing to turn will turn the end of the wire guide and end up popping your top piece and shooting your spring) -- to fix, you might be able to turn counter clockwise to fix, but pulling down the spring manually (both threaded and unthreaded portions of the spring, pull the spring as one piece and don't stretch it out) and refixing the top piece as done at start is a doable backup option too -- much easier to adjust the top locking piece this way than when trying to brute force the spring on with other methods shared:
 


6.  One installed, place the locking piece against floor or table and press down to ensure it functions properly (basically just checking to ensure the wire loop was a loop and not crossed...  (Spring will untwist itself to degree needed during cycling -- and just the thin diameter nature of the wire loop makes it look more twisted than it actually is -- in reality it's more of a wave than a twist due to how the spring is tensioned.)