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Offline tdogg

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2023, 09:02:51 PM »
Check the trigger bar spring tension.

https://cdn1.cajungunworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/28155355/How-To-34-Adjustment.pdf

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2023, 10:07:54 AM »
I will certainly check this out asap. Certainly sounds exactly like my issue. A “false” second reset.

One other issue I’m noticing is my safety will engage with hammer down. I’ve adjust sear screw to just touching the safety as directed.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2023, 11:15:50 AM »
My trigger pull weights are

DA - 6 Lbs 4.5 oz.
SA - 2 Lbs 11 oz.

May install heavy plunger spring to increase those a little.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2023, 11:59:11 AM »
I will certainly check this out asap. Certainly sounds exactly like my issue. A “false” second reset.

One other issue I’m noticing is my safety will engage with hammer down. I’ve adjust sear screw to just touching the safety as directed.
With the adjustable sear you will be able to engage the safety with the hammer down.  This is not a safe condition to carry and you shouldn't do it ever.  If you pull the trigger with the hammer down and safety engaged, you can damage the action and it most likely will fire.

It has to do with the sear set screw not having as much surface area to cover/interfere with the safety nub to prevent actuation when the hammer is down.

Otherwise with the hammer cocked the safety should prevent firing as intended and designed.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2023, 02:07:49 PM »
Well that’s not good. I thought the sear set screw was to correct that situation caused by the new hammer so it WOULDN'T allow safety to be engaged with hammer down. Hmmm 🤔
So with the pro package installed, what you’re saying is it’s not safe to carry the weapon?

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2023, 02:59:11 PM »
Might be the wrong sequence for this to happen, but maybe the sear is contacting the hammer hook. Double check that the over travel screw on the trigger is set correctly.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2023, 04:03:15 PM »
Well that’s not good. I thought the sear set screw was to correct that situation caused by the new hammer so it WOULDN'T allow safety to be engaged with hammer down. Hmmm 🤔
So with the pro package installed, what you’re saying is it’s not safe to carry the weapon?

No, with the stock parts you can't engage the safety with the hammer fully down.  It is safe to carry the weapon with the hammer down/half cock with the safety off.  You can also safely carry it hammer fully cocked and safety engaged as well.  It is just a new condition that you can now engage the safety with the hammer down but that isn't "safe" and shouldn't be done due to potential damage to action parts.  Since the firearm is a DA/SA gun it will fire with the hammer down or with the hammer cocked.  The safety doesn't prevent the DA hammer from cocking the hammer (hence the reason you can't apply the safety with the hammer down with the stock parts).

The adjustable sear is designed to ease the fitting process.  Otherwise you would have pull apart the sear and fit the safety leg, reassemble and test.  That iterative process would repeat until you are able to engage the safety and if you took too much off would require a new sear.

Here are the instructions from CGW that outline the adjustable sear differences:  https://cajungunworks.com/installation-instructions/manual-safety-hammer-installation-instructions/

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2023, 09:52:02 AM »
My friend, who has a Cz97 with stock parts, says my new light weight CGW trigger is not safe for self defence carry. Not that I’d try to conceal carry this big beast. I really only see this being a range or wood outside belt carry gun.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2023, 10:09:43 AM »
My friend, who has a Cz97 with stock parts, says my new light weight CGW trigger is not safe for self defence carry. Not that I’d try to conceal carry this big beast. I really only see this being a range or wood outside belt carry gun.
Your friend obviously knows his own limitations and should operate within those parameters. That said your 97 is perfectly safe for defensive purposes although again that is your choice. I have the full package in my 97's and I have no problem putting them in a defensive role.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2023, 02:38:29 PM »
I appreciate the vote of confidence. I like lighter quicker triggers.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2023, 12:08:35 PM »
Welcome to the CGW addicts! As far as I know there is not CGW Anonymous meeting so no worries. I geeked up and bought the Wheeler digital trigger gauge since it lets you press directly on the sensor which is in turn directly on the trigger. My 97B has an average (30 trials) of 6.5# DA and 2.3# SA. With the short reset it runs like mad and is still safe for EDC. I don't wear suspenders so it's my fun gun rather than EDC.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2023, 01:41:21 PM »
I've carried the 97 in shoulder holster numerous occasions. love the all steel.
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