Glockguy's review on 75B-40

[Glockguy-23]

Thanks, got a number handy?

[dlsolt]

1-800-955-4486 is what i found over at the cz website, that should work.. good luck!

[Glockguy-23]

It did, and thanks.  Mike is sending a new extractor and spring.  Hopefully this will remedy the problem.  I'll give a full review when the parts are in the gun and a satisfactory range session has taken place...

[Glockguy-23]

New extractor and spring arrived today.  Installed in gun and ready for the weekend.  I'll let everyone know what the outcome is...

[Glockguy-23]

Ok, back from the range.

For the most part, the CZ performed very well.  The gun went 200 rounds, without a hitch.  My confidence is growing.  Now its time to put it to the real test.

First some background on the COF.  I call it the run and gun, where we put the student up against 6 armed assailents, in "gang" fashion.  Basically, the student has found himself in a bad area, for whatever reasons, and is faced by 6 hoodlums who want to do him harm.  At contact distance, the students draws and begins to defend himself, moving and shooting as he goes.  Time and number of rounds varies, depending on how much ammo we feel like shooting...   Anyway, I loaded up 5 mags and started the drill.  My intention was to run the full 50 rounds through the CZ.  All was fine, until I hit the 4th mag.  About half way through, I got a FTE.  While moving, I cleared the malf and loaded the last mag.  Three shots into that mag, I got another FTE.  Retaining the mag, then clearing the gun, I reinserted the mag and finished the exercise.

The way I see it, the malfs could have been caused by one or both of two things.  I can't rule out the possibility of limp wristing a shot, or two, although I ran the same drill, several times with the G23, without a single problem.  The second thing is dirt.  The range conditions are very dusty, and it is possible that that, plus the previous 200 rounds were just too much for the CZ's tight tollerances.  The gun now has 1000 rounds through it, so should be loosening up.  I'll clean it this week, as well as the mags, and give it another run next weekend.

All in all, the new extractor and spring seem to have cured the problem, but until I can get it 100%, under all conditions, I'll still be searching...

Now, just so everyone knows just how severe the run and gun is, we normally run 20 rounds (two mags, and all rounds must be shot), with a time limit of 20 seconds.  Most students finish (with a reload) in about 16 seconds.  My times are generally in the 11's, with my best being a 9.87.  BTW, all targets must have 2 hits in a kill zone for the student to pass.

Come on down to the party, in two weeks, if you want to get in on some ot this kind of action...

[Glockguy-23]

Took the CZ to the camp, again this weekend.  Because we've been so busy getting ready for the party, next weekend, I only had a chance to run 80 rounds through the 75B-40.  All worked, without a hitch.  The trigger work seems to have solved the problem with the staging, and it is now a very crisp and creep-free trigger.  I've still not been able to clear the Air Marshal's drill, with this gun, but I'm convinced that the problem is in the front light.  I simply can't pick it up as quickly as I can with the Meprolites on my Glock.  Oh well, I didn't buy the CZ for a carry gun, and am NOT disappointed with its performance since getting the bugs worked out.  Round count is now up to 1100.  I'll post further comments once I've had a chance to put another 1000 or so through it.  'Til then, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, hoping to see this beauty become 100%...

[Objekt]

I bought a CZ 75B in .40 S&W last month.  Mine is black polycoat, otherwise similar to yours.  It was made in 2003 (if that's what the "03" near the ejection port means).  

Like you, I've had some FTE's.  It happened 4 times in the first 150 rounds.  After the 4 FTEs I called CZ.  They offered to do warranty work but also suggested I give it another 100-200 rounds to "break in."  Since mailing a gun is a huge pain in the keister, that's what I did, and the problem seems to have gone away.  I have now shot an additional 110 rounds trouble-free.  

The left grip being loose when I got the gun.  I tightened it before the last 50 rounds, but won't know until after more shooting whether it will work itself loose.

Before shooting that last 110 rounds, I replaced the stock 14 lb recoil spring with a Wolff 16 lb spring.  I don't see why this should have anything to do with FTEs, but I haven't had any since changing the spring.

All ammo has been Winchester white box (*not* Winclean), in the following loads:
-200 rounds 180 gr FMJ
-50 rounds 165 gr FMJ
-10 rounds 180 gr jacketed hollowpoint

Two other CZ 75B .40 owners have said the Winchester seemed to cause FTEs, as they had no trouble with other brands.  Maybe some Fiocchi is in my future.

My trigger pull is smooth as can be in both SA and DA, although it does seem a tad long in DA.  The only thing I dislike slightly is the small amount of "wiggle room" at the beginning of trigger travel, where the trigger is deflected but nothing is happening inside the gun.  The pull there is very light.  Maybe I just prefer a solid-all-the-way pull, which is what I seem to recall on the various Glock 17's I've shot in the past.  

As for accuracy, I have shot very little before now, so the biggest problem is the trigger actuator.  When I manage to shoot properly it seems to be dead on.  I may buy CZ's tritium night sights.  

Jury's out on concealed carry, but if I can convince myself there will be no more FTE's I see no reason not to do so.  First, though, I have to take the class and get a CC permit (which may not even be possible - I live in CA).

Last week I ordered 500 rounds of Sellier & Bellot.  The only thing they make in .40 S&W is 180 gr FMJ.  I figured, Czech gun, Czech ammo, how could I lose?  I'll post again once I've shot a couple hundred rounds of the S&B.

[rpbrock]

Hey Glock,

I have fed my '03 Satin Nickel 40 a steady diet of S&B 180s without a hitch since I got it a while back. I have also been feeding it 155 grn TCJs repops at your suggestion (by the way thanks!) without any problems either. I did go ahead and outfit it with a 20 LB. Wolff right after I got it as per DLeongs suggestion and it seems to function perfectly. I would like to have the trigger tweeked and smoothed at some point but it outshoots my capabilities as it sits. I enjoyed reading your comments about the 75-40. Thanks for posting them.

rpb - my .02 cents

[cs1sales]

Glockguy:
   Is your review a go or no go? I have seen several of these guns for sale and have been seriously thinking of buying one. What is the bottom line on the 40 cal CZ?

Tim

[Walt-Sherrill]

I think GLOCKGUY23 later sold the .40 to a forum member.  It was a "go" -- especially after he further improved the trigger -- but he is, afterall, a Glock Guy!  

They're good guns, and may be one of the best of the CZs.

(I don't have one -- in .40 --., but will eventually.)