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Offline Lockean

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SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« on: February 05, 2009, 09:55:23 PM »
I need some advice. I have been looking at SP01's for some time now and finally purchased one yesterday. I really wanted a shadow but could not find one anywhere so I settled for the tactical. Here's my dilemma as I was looking into trigger jobs today I noticed Shadows for sale on Angus' web site  :'(. Should I sell my SP01 before I shoot it and buy a Shadow or spend an extra $200-$300 (or how ever much) on a custom trigger job. I prefer the sights on the SP01 Tactical over the Shadow I just care about a good trigger/ action. Money is no issue but I would like to know which would be the best gun for the money shadow or SP01 TAC + trigger job. Thanks for any advice.

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 10:11:40 PM »
I own several SP-01's (one is a tactical), I have shot them all alot. I have not changed anything on the tactical and I think it has the best trigger of all of them.
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 10:19:23 PM »
I can't offer you much advice about the Tac, but I can tell you that my Shadow (also bought from Angus) is really nice.  The 85 trigger is already better than the standard SP-01 and, from what they tell me (Angus's shop), if you do get a trigger job and change out the recoil and main springs (maybe even the hammer), you are going to have one amazing pistol.  But even without those additions, the standard Shadow is really nice.  As for the sights...I guess you can always get them changed out.

Whatever you decide...let us know!  Good luck.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 10:22:42 PM by dgspurge »
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 11:03:44 PM »
both are equally good..

the Shadow is by far the best trigger out of the box of the SP01s...it has simplicity going for it. no firing pin block, extended controls.

if money is not object..then installing  a set of nice tritium sights on the Shadow will be no problem.

but if you want a decocker and keep the sights. ..then do the trigger on the tactical. a decocker gun will clean up pretty nice and smooth.

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 08:42:55 PM »
springerfanatic, I'm sorry but I didn't ask if this gun was to be a range gun or an all around pistol (SD, range). If it is going to be used as a range gun than not having a FPB is fine. I have a couple of 'souped up' CZ's but I really like my stock SP-01 tactical just the way it is.
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 11:33:51 AM »
The standard trigger is already superb.  Unless you're into competition shooting I see no real need for a trigger job.

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 01:49:24 PM »
Thanks for the input guys I settled on the tactical. The gun will be for both range and self defense. I have a new dilemma now. I picked up my pistol from my FFL today opened the box and it is the regular sp01! The website i bought it from shows a Tactical SP01 with a decocker and SAYS "Tactical" on the item name.... I?m pretty upset and I am looking forward to a heartfelt conversation with the websites customer service department on Monday. I have never bought a gun online before and have no idea how this is going to work out.
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 03:01:49 PM »
That does suck...sorry to hear about the mix up.  Let us know what happens...both good or bad.  Companies need to be held accountable for their mistakes.
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 09:02:41 AM »
I have never bought a gun online before and have no idea how this is going to work out.

Well, for starters you're going to loose $20 in FFL fees sending it back !! Sounds like the beginning of a nightmare.

Dang! That already sounds like it 's a load of "Pelosi".
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 05:27:06 PM »


Well, for starters you're going to loose $20 in FFL fees sending it back !! Sounds like the beginning of a nightmare.

Dang! That already sounds like it 's a load of "Pelosi".
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Yeah I told them in the email I sent that I want either an exchange free of charge + the $27.50 FFL fee and shipping or a full refund with the FFL fee shipping included. I have over $4k on back order with this company (due to fear of future gun control policies) if they're smart they'll take the $50 loss on my exchange. We'll see on Monday. I'm itching to go to the range and shoot the dang thing along with my new XD-M .40... This is like owning a Ferrari and loosing the keys! LOL

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 03:46:50 PM »
They won?t budge. I spent 20 min on the phone with them. They said because I left the dealer with it (which was a mistake on my part) they can't take a return due to liability that I could have used it in a crime  :-\. I listed it for $610 in the classified section, its still NIB. Here's the link if you're interested http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=21574.0
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 06:14:28 PM »
are you sure you want to sell it?  if the only difference is the decocker and you have the night sights like my standard sp-01, i say keep it. some love having a decocker, but i was never a fan.  i have the manual safety and i love it.  yes you have to train yourself to disengaging the safety before firing but just like 1911 shooters, you hardwire yourself to do it.
i love my standard sp-01 with manual safety and night sights. so unless you just love decockers, i say think long and hard about selling it.  no worries, either way you will have a great pistol.

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 03:07:37 PM »
Hi Springerfanatic,

If I were you, I'd cancel my entire $4000.00 backorder with these people. Whatever it is you're buying I'm sure you can find it elsewhere. They advertised a Tactical they should have sent a Tactical, the whole "could have been used in a crime" thing sounds like a convenient cop-out. Do they sell "used guns" at all? Couldn't those used guns have been used in a crime? Don't they have all your information so that any forensic evidence that was aquired from a crime commited wilst the gun was in your hands come right back to you anyway? They just don't want to have to sell it as used, which they would even if it was never fired. I understand the difference between a mistake (they sent the wrong gun), and being screwed, (you took it home, so you're stuck with our mistake). As for me, I would prefer the regular SP-01 over the Tactical but that's my choice, your choice was a Tactical, they advertised it as a Tactical and they sent a standard SP-01. Now I don't know about where you purchased your pistol but on CZ-USA the standard 9mm SP-01 goes for $585.80 and the 9mm SP-01 Tactical sells for $636.84 which is about a $51.00 difference. I never give a retailer a second chance to screw me over. You are in a unique position to hit them where it hurts, cancelling a $4000.00 order should get anyones attention. When I get bad service or outright screwed over by someplace that I've done business with, I never go back, ever! I also tell my friends to avoid them and why. When I get great service, or a bad situation is made good, I remain loyal to that place of business. I would also recommend them to friends and strangers alike.
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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 03:25:11 PM »
Artist,

I completely agree and I appreciate your support. I'm still looking for a place to back order all the "assault" rifles i have with them but I have just purchased a USP and P229 from other companies because of this. TGS COM (the company that screwed me) has so many gun sites on the internet it. I wish Buds Gun Shop did back orders they seem like a great company and ImpactGuns is to over priced. Here's a link to the site I purchased from so you can see how its misleading.

http://www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com/item/56615_Hand_Guns_Pistols_CZ_CZ-USA__75_SP-01_Tactical.aspx

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Re: SP01 Tactical + Trigger Job or Shadow
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 05:37:26 PM »
After looking at the link you posted it is clear that the picture shown is the SP-01 Tactical...it shows a decocker (the SP-01 has the safety).  They do have the disclaimer: "While we make every effort to ensure that the picture matches the product, we cannot guarantee its accuracy."  But they are advertising the tactical in the text so they should have sent you the tactical.  They may argue that the word 'tactical' is meant to be an adjective, rather than a noun.  But ultimately they should focus on making it right, and not arguing the point.


« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 06:37:25 PM by dgspurge »
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