CZ 75 P-02

[ck1]

If it's got the Omega trigger the can go ahead and keep it over in Europe as far as I care... The Omega triggers suck IMHO, yeah they might come out of the box a hair better and they're simpler parts-wise and can be switched between safety or decocker... but, they also don't work with the CZC competition hammers and they don't respond to the usual trigger job techniques employed on CZ's or break-in and get better over time the same way many of us are used to.

A P-01 in the traditional CZ SA/DA pattern would be THE carry gun, so many of us want it, forget this Omega BS and just make the gun we want already.

[czechona]

Just a teeny weeny quetion. Can we install the internals of this P-02 to our beloved P-01.  Just wanted to try what the heck is all about with this Omega trigger thingie.  Thanks

[Sancho]

The P-02 is not even listed in the 2011-12 catalog.  I guess that the pistol is a year or more away?  How can that be?

http://www.czub.cz/zbrojovka/cz-catalogue/katalog%202011%20final-eng.pdf

Also note that the PCR compact is not even in the catalog.

Sancho

EDITED on 3-16-2012

I was wrong.  The P-02 shows up in the 2012 catalog.  The PCR is in there too.
Also, I bought a P07 and I like the trigger.
But that is another Ginger VS MaryAnn thing.

Sancho

[ava010204]

All, if you check the cz custom website, you will see they have the CZ-P02 Omega in stock.  http://czcustom.com/cz75bp029mmcompactomega.aspx

-Norm

[briang2ad]

If it's got the Omega trigger the can go ahead and keep it over in Europe as far as I care... The Omega triggers suck IMHO, yeah they might come out of the box a hair better and they're simpler parts-wise and can be switched between safety or decocker... but, they also don't work with the CZC competition hammers and they don't respond to the usual trigger job techniques employed on CZ's or break-in and get better over time the same way many of us are used to.

A P-01 in the traditional CZ SA/DA pattern would be THE carry gun, so many of us want it, forget this Omega BS and just make the gun we want already.

CK1:  I generally agree, but...

I went through 3 P01s all had disappointing triggers and the decockers were not all that good.  They did not "smooth out" over time either.  Do you also mean that you cannot disassemble the Omega and at least smooth the DA trigger action???

[th3ug1y0n3]

I went through 3 P01s all had disappointing triggers and the decockers were not all that good.  [/quote]

3 bad p-01, that suxz.  That is definetly an out, thre stirkes and they are out.   I am a little concerned with this outcome.  Are the P-01s that bad?  Definetly will think twice or three times before I get another one. 

[briang2ad]

NO... P01s are excellent guns.  I broke their trigger return springs and went through junk getting them fixed.  CZ had a bad run of trigger springs back in '03, and I suffered for it.  AND... this is the crux of the P01.  With the ridiculous decocker, they are HARD to detail strip and do trigger work on, and replace the return spring.  THUS, the avg guy has to send it BACK to CZ.  At that time, they charged shipping... Yeah, $50 for a $2 spring...  NOPE. 

However, the P01 itself is light, accurate, and reliable as all getout.  IF they made it with a NORMAL CZ 75 safety, it would be the best pistol in the world OTB.  I hate the decocker.  If you ike decockers, the P01 is the ticket.  Buy with confidence.

BTW - I am the only guy in CZ history to break about 7 trigger springs.  Its a long story...  But, I learned to detail strip out of it...

[th3ug1y0n3]

Understood.  I have a one.  I like it so far and I thought maybe i just got lucky. 

I am shopping for a new firearm and the P-01 OD Green one was on the short list.  So, when I saw this I was like o'boy maybe not, scratch that off my list. 

Well now I am not sure.  I have done a lot of research which really has only made it more complex.  All of the great caliber options out there and so many guns to choose from. 

I like the decocker option but the next one will be just for fun, so it is not a must but I like to carry in what may be consided Condition Two, instead of fully decocked I like half decocked.  This opens my option which also add more decisions to make. 

Thanks for the information as all of these discussions do help.

[EuroCZuser]

Dear All,

The only "major" difference between the P01 and P02 is the trigger system; Omega.

I just returned from the Czech Republic/ Prague mid January, as we spent the holidays in Europe. I've had the pleasure of visiting their factory store and speak to their people directly.
I've also handled the gun.
The trigger system feels the same as in the P07- soft, shorter travel, comfortable, without loss of precision.

Now, about the store, it is beautifully built, using more Turkish walnut wood I have seen anywhere else. It is exactly what you see on the cz.cz website. A very stylish, classic looking store. They kindly asked me not to take any pictures, but I've prought a store brochure home.

Something to know, their business is mostly overseas (80%), with only 20% of the market share in CZ Republic. Unfortunately, their people do not recognize excelence, as they feel that anything that was designed and made under the Iron Curtain is not quality, and resume to purchasing "western" made products, such as Glock and Sig.

Ceska Zbrojovka sells their rifles best in South Africa, who thoroughly appreciates them. Germany is second (go figure- a compliment for them), and finally US of A, where we recognize quality when we see it.

Another detail to know, is that the firearms cost more there, as I have done the dollar/ corons parity. They are doing a great job here, bringing them in at real reasonable prices.

I hope this helps.

Cheers.

[czechona]

Here I am asking again. Can we install the internals of this P-02 to our beloved P-01? Just wanted to try what the heck is all about with this Omega trigger thingie. 

[canoeist]

Does anyone have any updated info on the P-02?  I emailed and asked about availability date but no response yet.

[jamesjems]

Here I am asking again. Can we install the internals of this P-02 to our beloved P-01? Just wanted to try what the heck is all about with this Omega trigger thingie.

No. I have a p-02. It's the only CZ ? heck, the only pistol I own ? and the internals of the Omega system don't go into the P-01. Lots and lots of things are different about it. But after Schmeky finished with mine, all I can say is it's fabulous. Terrific trigger/action. (It took some doing, however.) David took out all the DA creep and got the poundage down to 6.6lbs DA, and a 2.11lbs SA that is just plain awesome. So, it's possible to clean them up and make 'em better, that's for sure. David did it.

...but no, you can't swap them out with the guts of a P-01.
...But why bother? You can, with minimal effort and cost, make the trigger on a P-01 terrific!

[Stuart]

No updates on P02's. Haven't seen any since the first few were in country last year.

[JimThornTX]

I was wrong.  The P-02 shows up in the 2012 catalog.

After reading this I had to get my 2012 catalog and take another look. Sancho is correct. I didn't realize the P-02 is in the new catalog probably because there is no actual written mention of the P-02 existing at all. It's only appears at the bottom of page 18 in the "Specifications" list.  The P-02 is not listed in the "Pricing" list on page 19. 

[surg]

why is po-2 not release there in the u.s? also, there are almost no reviews of it in the net