What about the Armalite AR-24?

[singleshotcajun]

I just bought a AR24 TC(frame checkering and adjustable rear sight).I got the Armalite and a Witness 45/22 combo from Bud's on Friday. Seems very well made.I have abnormally big hands and it feels OK but my Witness steel 45 feels so much better. I wonder if the grips for a small frame witness or Baby Eagle would fit the AR 24 ? I am stuck with it. The "hump" on the top of the grip panel is giving me fits as it is under my trigger finger knuckle with a high hold.I may just trim it flat. I hope even the tickiest lawyer at Armalite would not consider that a warranty breaker.While deciding on the purchase I thought there might be a chance that EAA would take over as the prime importer from Armalite with the Turk made clones but that did not detour me, something about the Armalite just grabbed me and I had to have it.

[Bret]

singleshotcajun, welcome to the forum!  Let us know your impression once you get to shoot it.

[Malcolm C.]

Good morning folks,
I?ve been lurking here for several months while researching the AR24-15C vs. the wide variety of CZ and CZ clone pistols for the purposes of choosing which one to buy.  I ended up choosing the AR24 for several reasons.
1.   The small frame feels better to me than the larger varients.
2.   The firing pin retaining plate seems a better design and is certainly easier to disassemble/reassemble.
3.   Checkered front and back straps provide excellent purchase on the weapon.
4.   Though it is purely aesthetic, I like the round trigger guard.
5.   A second aesthetic quality contributing to my choice the clean machining and coating lauded in most reviews was spot on for the example I handled at a local range.
6.   Though I have read many mixed reviews with respect to the performance of the AR24, this gun was not purchased for defensive purposes.
7.   The sight picture suited my tastes better on the AR24-15C than that for the CZ75B.
8.   I paid $505 for my AR24 which was $25 < the CZ.

Purchasing from Bud?s proved easy and I will purchase from them again.

I thoroughly cleaned the pistol, lubed it with my favorite oil and grease and have dry fired it roughly 500x.  The trigger has smoothed up noticeably, and I expect it will continue to improve with more cycles.

So far, I have fired 100 Winchester White Box cartridges through the pistol with one malfunction in the first magazine.  This was a failure to return to battery.  At this time, I am assuming it was due to the tight lock-up of the pistol.  Time will tell.

Much like the guy from The Truth About Guns, I find this pistol extremely easy to fire accurately.  While I am no bulls-eye expert shooter, I found putting five shot off-hand groups into 1? paper squares at a meager 10 yards to be boringly/excitingly easy.  I attribute this to the good sight picture, wonderful ergonomics, and the extremely tame nature of 9mm through a full sized steel framed gun.  Simply put, it was easy to grip, point, aim, and squeeze without flinching.

Thanks for all the previous reviews allowing me to purchase what has the potential to become my favorite 9mm.  I will post updates as I put it through its paces over time, as I understand the value of such anecdotal experiences when trying to choose among many quite similar pistols.

Take care,
Malcolm

[Bret]

Malcolm, welcome to the forum!  Definitely share your experiences with us.

[Malcolm C.]

Good afternoon folks,
I just returned home from a beautiful weekend at my uncle's farm where my AR24-15C had its second workout.  We ran 250 rounds of Remmington UMC through it without any problems; however, my pistol seems to group better with the Winchester White Box.  Of the 250 rounds of UMC 45 were shot by an 11 year old who had only previously shot a Ruger Mark II.  The gun cycled fine, as the boy has an appropriately firm grip. 

At this point, I am a total of 350 rounds in with ~700 dry fires.  The trigger continues to smooth up noticeably.  However, I'd assume I am approaching the point of diminishing returns, as the trigger is very good at this point with little creep and no grit.  Other than a trigger job, I am afraid I am stuck with the take-up and over travel.  At this point, the SA is better than any Sig I have ever owned.  I'm a happy camper.

Take care,
Malcolm

[jwc007]

Sounds like a very good range trip and your AR-24C sounds like a real winner! 

That it performed well with Remington/UMC ammunition speaks well of it, as that brand of ammunition has been problematic for about the last 6 years.

[singleshotcajun]

The more I shoot the AR 24 the more I like it. I naturally take a "high" hold on pistols(grew up shooting 1911s) so any handgun I own better have a Browning type safety that does not decock from downward pressure of my thumb. The frame mounted decock issue is one reason I did not buy a CZ online without trying one out as many of the new CZ 75 pistols are designed in this manner and Bud's descriptions are not always clear in that regard. While shooting the AR 24 with a high hold the "hump" on top of the grip that bugged me while just getting a feel of the pistol actually serves a purpose for me. The hump helps me concentrate on using the tip of my trigger finger on the trigger.I've shot one hundred Winchester white box FMJ and one hundred PPU 115 gr hollow points with no issues. Very impressed thus far. The Tanfoglio  fits my abnormally big hands better but the Armalite does seem to be a better made firearm. I have read that TZ75 and Baby Eagle Hogue grips will fit the AR 24 full size. I emailed Hogue with the question and the response was that they could not confirm. They suggested a Hogue wrap around grip,No thanks as that would cover up the wonderful checkering.I may eventually try Hogue's nice wood grip panels for TZ 75 . Let me mention the weight of the AR 24. What precious few articles are available harp on the weight, let me say that the AR 24 is not noticeably heavy at least not to me. My current carry gun is a Taurus 24/7 OSS and the AR 24 is smaller and lighter.Size and weight is comparable to a standard 1911.

[jwc007]

I have read that TZ75 and Baby Eagle Hogue grips will fit the AR 24 full size.

The Hogue Cz75/Tz75/TA90/EAA Witness grips, yes!  Baby Eagle grips, no!  Also the Wrap-around Grips can have the center section cut away, if desired.

Glad you are enjoying your new AR24!

[singleshotcajun]

Thanks,the info on the grips is great to know.At least there is one after market option. I think I'll stick with Armalite mags as the MEC-GAR 17 round Small frame Witness mags are 37.50 on their website and Armalite gets 30.00 for theirs.

[Brian Ahearn]

I just bought the Ar 24 tactical this morning to add to my growing Cz clone collection I choose the tactical for the front and rear checkering on the grip area of the frame and the adjustable rear sight . Should have before Thanksgiving which is good because we head to the range before frying the turkey. Can 't wait to shoot this one and I am sure that it will be trouble free -another fine made Turkish cz clone.

[JimThornTX]

I just bought the Ar 24 tactical this morning to add to my growing Cz clone collection I choose the tactical for the front and rear checkering on the grip area of the frame and the adjustable rear sight . Should have before Thanksgiving which is good because we head to the range before frying the turkey. Can 't wait to shoot this one and I am sure that it will be trouble free -another fine made Turkish cz clone.

Can't wait to hear how well the Armalite performs. 

Which Turkish company makes the AR-24?

[JimThornTX]

Found the answer to my own question. The AR-24 is made by Sarsilmaz. One source said the AR-24 is a M2000 but Wikipedia says it's a Kilinc 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armalite_AR-24

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/tr/sarsilmaz-kilinc-2000-e.html

http://www.sarsilmaz.com.tr/en

[Brian Ahearn]

I have a bunch of gun from Sarslimaz already including the Sar k2 - 15 rounds of 45 ACP whats not to love? Love it so much I bought 7 additional mags. At 25 yards I can hit my 8 inch wide by 10 high steel torso style swinging plate target all day, its one of my favorite CZ clones and for $451.00 that I paid for it.

[jwc007]

I just bought the Ar 24 tactical this morning to add to my growing Cz clone collection

Congratulations!    Look forward to reading your Range Report on it!

There are a lot of tempting deals going on right now, but I'm buying/restocking Ammunition and Reloading Supplies these days.

The SAR K2, Canik 55 Stingray, Canik 55 TP9, and AR 24 are tempting.  Right now, I'm EXTREMELY well armed, as is.

I did get a Vz2008 (Vz58 Clone/Copy) and a Charles Daly 1911 EFS this year.
Unfortunately, I also need to shop for another Car or SUV.

[Brian Ahearn]

If you caught my comments in my TP9 Canik thread I gave that one a thumbs down the trigger pull on that is just beyond terrible . When they came out they were $350.00 for the package -holster two ways to were it pistol and 2 mags -decocker- nice deal rright -would be .but trying to be accurate is a n art with this trigger system . Now the price is down to $299.00 bettter deal I say no many other better canik products to choose from. Now I will say that I like the decocker feature found it very easy to use,but that does not make up for the terrible almost 2 stage trigger feel. I am still working on trying to master this trigger , but i would not resale this pistol or recommend this one to a customer. Brian  / EFR