Vz.58 Pistols What are the Facts?

[RogerCZ75Bfan]

Are they like AK pistols shipped into the U.S.? That is to say, no 922r compliance parts because they are a pistol?
Then if you SBR it, you are required to change out a certain # of parts to be 922r compliant?
Secondly, to add a Vz.58 folding stock, is it just a matter of drilling and tapping into the receiver? Is that not even necessary? Does it require a gunsmith to re-do the rear of the receiver like with some AK pistols?
School me on Vz.58 pistols please.

[vblue42]

Info can be found at http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/rifles/762-x-39-mm/sa-vz58-pistol-762/

[RogerCZ75Bfan]

Info can be found at http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/rifles/762-x-39-mm/sa-vz58-pistol-762/

Thank you.   

[JAPartridge]

Roger, why not just purchase the SBR here in a few months?  just curious as to why you'd rather purchase the pistol and then convert it.

[Sheepdog]

Roger, why not just purchase the SBR here in a few months?  just curious as to why you'd rather purchase the pistol and then convert it.

I'm not Roger. But he may just wanna have it in his hands to play with as a pistol for the 6+ month wait. ONCE the paperwork is taken care of, it's an easy thing to convert from pistol to rifle. Heck, he could do it himself.

[RogerCZ75Bfan]

Roger, why not just purchase the SBR here in a few months?  just curious as to why you'd rather purchase the pistol and then convert it.

Because SBRs WILL NOT be sold by Czechpoint. They are the only distributor of Czech imported vz.58s in the entire US. Did you know that?

[JAPartridge]

Roger, No, Czechpoint will not be selling the SBR's directly.  They will be selling them to their distributor, AGS... did you even read the article on www.thebangswitch.com?  The SBR's that will be sold by AGS, are Czechpoint imported CSA manufactured SBR's... same as the pistols, just with the stock attached.

[JAPartridge]

Roger, why not just purchase the SBR here in a few months?  just curious as to why you'd rather purchase the pistol and then convert it.

I'm not Roger. But he may just wanna have it in his hands to play with as a pistol for the 6+ month wait. ONCE the paperwork is taken care of, it's an easy thing to convert from pistol to rifle. Heck, he could do it himself.

Good enough reason... I'm just thinking of my situation where I already have a "standard" vz.58... I can be patient and wait for the SBR. 

[cz671]

Roger, No, Czechpoint will not be selling the SBR's directly.  They will be selling them to their distributor, AGS... did you even read the article on www.thebangswitch.com?  The SBR's that will be sold by AGS, are Czechpoint imported CSA manufactured SBR's... same as the pistols, just with the stock attached.

are you sure about this? this is what i read on the bangswitch "The rifle is being built by CzechPoint and exclusively distributed by AGS Armament." no where did the bangswitch mention it being built by CSA.  but wait got this also from the bangswitch..." CzechPoint takes a standard Vz.58 rifle and shortens everything forward of the receiver (gas system, barrel, handguards, etc.).   Note: CzechPoint....not "CSA", takes a standard vz58 rifle and shortens them.....

i thought its illegal to import anykind of SBRs for commercial sales, correct me if im wrong jap, your knowledge and close ties to these companies should give you all the correct info....right?

[Sheepdog]

Roger, No, Czechpoint will not be selling the SBR's directly.  They will be selling them to their distributor, AGS... did you even read the article on www.thebangswitch.com?  The SBR's that will be sold by AGS, are Czechpoint imported CSA manufactured SBR's... same as the pistols, just with the stock attached.

are you sure about this? this is what i read on the bangswitch "The rifle is being built by CzechPoint and exclusively distributed by AGS Armament." no where did the bangswitch mention it being built by CSA.  but wait got this also from the bangswitch..." CzechPoint takes a standard Vz.58 rifle and shortens everything forward of the receiver (gas system, barrel, handguards, etc.).   Note: CzechPoint....not "CSA", takes a standard vz58 rifle and shortens them.....

i thought its illegal to import anykind of SBRs for commercial sales, correct me if im wrong jap, your knowledge and close ties to these companies should give you all the correct info....right?

I don't know all the BS import laws but, perhaps these rifles are imported as pistols and then made into sbr's. All it would take is quickly drilling out the rear sling loop and attaching the stock in its place.

That's probably just a SNAFU by MAC and his blog. I like his stuff, but he (who is?) isn't always 100% correct with information. I don't have all the details, but Czechpoint is an importer and in some cases and dealer/seller. The may do some minor work, but CSA is the manufacturer of the 58 rifles/pistols. For example, the rifles come into the country only allowed and designed to take the single stack mags. All come with the skeleton "sporter" stock. Outside contractors for Czechpoint open up the magwell, replace parts with US parts, etc. Czechpoint may do some minor furniture swapping. But they don't do any heavy work. Unless that has changed.

[nalioth]

A tax stamp is permission to have a "non sporting" firearm.

IOW, NFA firearms do not have to be 922r compliant.

[cz671]

Roger, No, Czechpoint will not be selling the SBR's directly.  They will be selling them to their distributor, AGS... did you even read the article on www.thebangswitch.com?  The SBR's that will be sold by AGS, are Czechpoint imported CSA manufactured SBR's... same as the pistols, just with the stock attached.

are you sure about this? this is what i read on the bangswitch "The rifle is being built by CzechPoint and exclusively distributed by AGS Armament." no where did the bangswitch mention it being built by CSA.  but wait got this also from the bangswitch..." CzechPoint takes a standard Vz.58 rifle and shortens everything forward of the receiver (gas system, barrel, handguards, etc.).   Note: CzechPoint....not "CSA", takes a standard vz58 rifle and shortens them.....

i thought its illegal to import anykind of SBRs for commercial sales, correct me if im wrong jap, your knowledge and close ties to these companies should give you all the correct info....right?

I don't know all the BS import laws but, perhaps these rifles are imported as pistols and then made into sbr's. All it would take is quickly drilling out the rear sling loop and attaching the stock in its place.

That's probably just a SNAFU by MAC and his blog. I like his stuff, but he (who is?) isn't always 100% correct with information. I don't have all the details, but Czechpoint is an importer and in some cases and dealer/seller. The may do some minor work, but CSA is the manufacturer of the 58 rifles/pistols. For example, the rifles come into the country only allowed and designed to take the single stack mags. All come with the skeleton "sporter" stock. Outside contractors for Czechpoint open up the magwell, replace parts with US parts, etc. Czechpoint may do some minor furniture swapping. But they don't do any heavy work. Unless that has changed.

um...ok, thanks dude but i pretty much knew all that info regarding the vz58s since i purchased mine in 2008, but thanks for the refresher course.    since dan announced the import of th vz pistols he specifically said at the time in PISTOL configuration only, he never mentioned complete imported SBR vz58 double stack and all version.  i myself dont know all the BS import laws but i find it interesting at times how all this works

[Sheepdog]

Roger, No, Czechpoint will not be selling the SBR's directly.  They will be selling them to their distributor, AGS... did you even read the article on www.thebangswitch.com?  The SBR's that will be sold by AGS, are Czechpoint imported CSA manufactured SBR's... same as the pistols, just with the stock attached.

are you sure about this? this is what i read on the bangswitch "The rifle is being built by CzechPoint and exclusively distributed by AGS Armament." no where did the bangswitch mention it being built by CSA.  but wait got this also from the bangswitch..." CzechPoint takes a standard Vz.58 rifle and shortens everything forward of the receiver (gas system, barrel, handguards, etc.).   Note: CzechPoint....not "CSA", takes a standard vz58 rifle and shortens them.....

i thought its illegal to import anykind of SBRs for commercial sales, correct me if im wrong jap, your knowledge and close ties to these companies should give you all the correct info....right?

I don't know all the BS import laws but, perhaps these rifles are imported as pistols and then made into sbr's. All it would take is quickly drilling out the rear sling loop and attaching the stock in its place.

That's probably just a SNAFU by MAC and his blog. I like his stuff, but he (who is?) isn't always 100% correct with information. I don't have all the details, but Czechpoint is an importer and in some cases and dealer/seller. The may do some minor work, but CSA is the manufacturer of the 58 rifles/pistols. For example, the rifles come into the country only allowed and designed to take the single stack mags. All come with the skeleton "sporter" stock. Outside contractors for Czechpoint open up the magwell, replace parts with US parts, etc. Czechpoint may do some minor furniture swapping. But they don't do any heavy work. Unless that has changed.

um...ok, thanks dude but i pretty much knew all that info regarding the vz58s since i purchased mine in 2008, but thanks for the refresher course.    since dan announced the import of th vz pistols he specifically said at the time in PISTOL configuration only, he never mentioned complete imported SBR vz58 double stack and all version.  i myself dont know all the BS import laws but i find it interesting at times how all this works

Umm....ok, no need to be snippy. Just trying to help. Considering your quoting wrong information and all. If Czechpoint themselves is making these guns from scratch or putting them completely together themselves. Then I'll stand corrected. And obviously since he was talking just about pistols months ago. These new short rifles don't apply to that old conversation.

Happy 4th. and be safe.

[cz671]

Not being snippy...so just keep your cool
happy 4th of july

[vblue42]

Guys how about someone just PM Dan and find out from the horses mouth instead of all this conjecture and pissing back and forth.