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Offline plumber4444

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OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« on: July 23, 2014, 05:50:59 PM »
Just got my CZ Compact.  Love it.  Love the "feel" of it much better than the P01.  It DOES in fact fit my short, chubby hand and fingers better, if for ANY reason, the trigger is much less pointy, which makes it easier to shoot.  It will be my daily carry gun. 

Now, with that said, if a crisis happens, a SHTF big time break down, all out war kind of thing, I am going to have a choice as to which gun I will carry personally.  I know, I know, everyone is going to say whichever gun YOU shoot better with.  Now let's overlook that for the moment.  Let's assume I can shoot them ALL equally well, which I can and do. Which should I choose based solely on likeliness to fail?

We are talking about my options being a CZ75B, CZ75 Compact or CZ P01.  I bought the P01 based on the NATO rating alone.  It WAS very impressive after all, you have to admit.  Still, was any of my other CZ guns ever subjected to such torture?  That I do not know, they may have passed as well.  And the P01 WAS based off of the already famous CZ75.

But back to my question, if I had to grab ONE gun and go, all things being equal to shooting them all with the same proficiency, which one is more likely not to jam, break, bust or go bump in the night???

I am leaning towards the P01.  But with that said, I honestly do not know.  I am not talking preferences here, just pure, 100% unadulterated mechanics ONLY.  Which one will not fail me for many, many moons?

Thanks ahead of time.  In all fairness, I am posting this in the CZ compact forum also.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 06:16:59 PM »
I have a P-01 and an SP-01 Shadow and I don't know which I would grab.  If I thought weight was going to be an issue I'd take the P-01,,,, if not I'd grab the SP-01.

I don't give it a lot of thought though.
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Offline bang bang

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 06:24:32 PM »
you ever heard of Murphy?


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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 06:36:40 PM »
This reason alone has prevented me from buying another CZ clone.  In the "Zombie Apocalypse"  ;D (I'm joking...or am I?),  you'll have a tougher time finding parts for a more rare pistol.  That being said, the CZ 75 would probably have most parts, holsters, and accessories to support you on the road (especially since you can use some Beretta holsters).

As far as shooting/features.... Each one has a case.

CZ 75 - being a full size it'll have the lowest recoil, longer barrel "should" mean more accurate, more aftermarket or scavenging support

CZ Compact - concealable, steel frame should hold up to abuse,  most internals can be switched with a 75 B

CZ P-01 - lightest of the group, light rail for those "Zombies" waiting in the dark.


Back to the mechanics part the 75 and P-01 were used for military and police purposes.  They should hold up quite well.  I don't think you can go wrong with any of the three.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2014, 06:51:24 PM »
Haha, I'll be REALLY brave and admit that I'd be 60%/40% grabbing my Glock 17 over either my CZ 75 Omega or PCR. It's lighter, parts will be more plentiful, I can run it dry more reliably (which is important because I live in the desert. Sand+properly lubed CZ+long carrying time between cleaning=greater possibility of a gunked up gun), and it has a light rail. I shoot my CZ Omega the best, but not enough to outweigh the pros of the Glock 17.

But like I said, I'd only slightly favor the Glock. In the heat of the moment, if I chose either the Omega or the PCR I wouldn't feel undergunned.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 07:34:27 PM »
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Now, with that said, if a crisis happens, a SHTF big time break down, all out war kind of thing

The SPO1 due to mag. capacity, stability and "weight as another weapon".  Optionally,  with 23rds/mag using the CZC short extended mag option,  and it's reliable.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 08:36:29 PM »
you ever heard of Murphy?

That's funny...  And you are PROBABLY the most accurate!!!!  Whichever I grab, will indeed, be the one that breaks I promise you.... LOL

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2014, 08:46:17 PM »
For mag capacity, I should add that ALL of my mags for the P01 and CZ75C are CZ75 16 rounds with the SP01 base pads.  Fits my hand better and who doesn't want another 2 rounds???  No one I know of.  All told Ihave 17.  So I am not THAT worried about an extra round or two, I always keep plentiful extra mags where ever I go.

Plus ext mags can be used in all of them.  But it's a trade off.  The CZ75 full size has been around for ever and is true, battle tested.  The P01 is the newbie, with mucho impressive specs, but not much real time data coming back in that I have read anywhere.

So best point made to date, other then Murphy :) was parts being available.  Excellent point made and a GREAT reason to stick with the CZ75.  In reality, if I can find the parts, it'll probably come another CZ gun owner in the form of being taking by the hand of a deceased person, mine included, so may not matter much at that point!! 

But as I think about it, a full size DOES give longer distance shots....another vote for the full size, as that MAY be VERY important if I am shooting 100 yards away..

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2014, 08:51:12 PM »
You asked.  I answered.
P.S.  the mags hold 19 rds.  ;)

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2014, 09:31:23 PM »
If  the SHTF happens, I feel comfortable in grabbing any of my CZs.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 10:17:39 PM »
First let me offer my condolences on the loss of one your hands. Must be an awful handicap.  ::)


Personally, in a crisis, I will be grabbing 2 guns, since I have two hands, and sticking an alloy frame PCR at the small of my back IWB for a left hand draw and a full size 75b on my hip OWB. Nothing says "don't mess with me" like a fullsize gun out where everyone can see it! Well except for a shotgun! ;)
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 10:24:54 PM »
If  the SHTF happens, I feel comfortable in grabbing any of my CZs.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2014, 10:47:22 PM »
So that's 2 for the full size and the rest for "any".  I'm counting... with one hand!

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2014, 11:03:53 PM »
Compact with 16rnds mags.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2014, 11:44:35 PM »
AZ_CZ  +1
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